There will be a lot of people answering this the obvious way, but what strikes me is that *even now* there’s not enough immunity from prior infection in Sweden to stop this happening.
Whatever else that means, it suggests that population protection through infection induced immunity is not going to happen without bad consequences. The idea might have been defensible at the start when we were more uncertain about severity, it hasn’t been for some time
If people compare per capita mortality in Sweden with elsewhere note that an appropriate comparison is the other Nordic countries, all of which took a very different route, rather than other European countries with their own stories
Finally, however you feel about it, remember that Sweden did not 'do nothing'. There was a strategy that you can agree or disagree with, and there were interventions. It wasn't completely laissez faire. Mistakes get made, the key thing is to learn from them going forward

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with Bill Hanage

Bill Hanage Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @BillHanage

8 May
It’s great that public health has been getting some recognition. Many 🙏🏼. If you’d like to donate to help this work, which is mostly done by really underpaid and devoted people, here are some ideas. @MSF_USA @CEPIvaccines @PIH @NFIDvaccines for a start 1/n
If you want to help public health donating to established non profits is better than say, someone from twitter on patreon, for a bunch of reasons. For a start there’s oversight of where your $ go and an existing system of governance, hopefully with accountability! 2/n
I don’t want to deter donations to new initiatives like @crisisreadiness, but just to point out that if you really want to help, think about the best way to help 3/3
Read 5 tweets
7 May
This article, on the arrival of B.1.617 (et al) in the U.K. is important, but is missing some really important context. Notably, we expect clusters, even in vaccinated people. It’s how *many* there are when compared with unvaccinated that matters 1/n theguardian.com/world/2021/may…
Look at this. No deaths. That’s not the usual story when it comes to this virus and care homes. I don’t want to draw strong positive conclusions from small numbers, but nor should we draw strong negative ones 2/n
It’s actually rather like this. Again an outbreak, but nowhere near as bad as we’d have expected in the absence of vaccination cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/7… 3/n
Read 6 tweets
1 May
The only thing more mind boggling than the fact this is happening, is the idea that it is a “test” that will provide useful data. It isn’t, period.
It is happening at a time of low prevalence, in this age group due to few contacts offer the last few months, which makes any findings of questionable relevance to circumstances with higher prevalence
Negative test before entry is good, but ‘urging’ people to get tests after (or before for that matter) is not follow up. It’s not even an adequate study.
Read 6 tweets
26 Apr
I am seeing a lot of anxiety around partial immunity through vaccination producing selection for escape variants. Here @colinrussell and I explain why we *don't* think that's likely 1/n science.sciencemag.org/content/372/65…
It depends on the supply of the mutations that enable immune evasion. If we assume this happens during breakthrough cases in vaccinated people, there's not much time for it to make a difference, because transmission tends to happen early on in infection 2/n
And if breakthrough cases are less likely to transmit in general (as seems so in at least some cases) that makes it even more difficult 3/n papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cf…
Read 10 tweets
6 Apr
The UK is going to be making free rapid tests available to everyone. As you might imagine, I approve. However it should be remembered rapid tests are most effective when combined with other things. Short thread 1/n
nytimes.com/2021/04/05/wor…
For a start, for tests to be useful they have to be used! It is not obvious to me that there is any incentive for that in the proposal. If people suspect they are infected, but don't want the risk of having to isolate, they're not likely to take a test 2/n
Then there's the perennial question of what happens in the event of a +ve test? If people actually isolate that's great, but that's not been universally the case in the pandemic so far, putting it mildly. Hopefully their behavior would change enough to make a difference 3/n
Read 9 tweets
26 Mar
Getting immunity from a vaccine is vastly safer than from infection, both as an individual because it avoids the negative consequences of infection AND for the community because unlike the virus, these vaccines don’t transmit
So I am quite pleased that a decent fraction of Fla residents have received at least one shot, the more the merrier
I predicted a few months ago that Fla would be quieter than other places over the winter because of larger number of contacts outside. I don’t know if that *was* the reason but the relative quietness did materialize even as variants have grown to a large proportion of cases
Read 6 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Too expensive? Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal Become our Patreon

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us on Twitter!

:(