Thread by @ElizabethBangs

Listening to past Labour leaders who have spectacularly not won elections attempting to advise a current labour leader on how to win them, is like asking Icarus for flying lessons.
I haven't the answer. But I can start with a version of the problem.
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Only three Labour leaders have *EVER* won an election: 1) Attlee - immediately after the war, when the population felt like winners on a run of winning
2) 'White heat of technology' - Wilson
3) Education, education, education, opportunity and aspiration - Blair
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No Labour leader has *ever* won appealing to the masses to realise, finally, that they are poor stupid oppressed losers needing a helping hand; 'a govt of the losers, for the losers, by the losers' is hardly going to rally the nation in a tide of optimism.
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Chasing red wall voters, (while at best taking for granted others, at worst telling them they're wrong) on the basis they're poor things who need sensible help from careful Labour more than they need mad over-optimism from slapdash Tories is doomed to failure. Rightly.
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And sure, for the many not the few is philosophically, morally, politically right. But who's one of the many? Not me. Not you. We're proud. Millions of us, even with desperate lives, still don't want labelling as just 'one of the many'.
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Especially the young. We're telling them there's no actual hope beyond minimising suffering and injustice? That they're just the many, like everyone? That getting by is a victory in itself? They need more than palliative care for society and the planet. They need real hope.
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The Labour Party at the moment, current versions - Corbyn, Starmer, both - looks like a token opposition preserved for the nation from the 20th Century to provide cover for a clearly degraded democracy so that it looks like one that functions fine.
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Who's got the big, non-establishment, planet-saving, best friends with our EU cousins, technological white heat, education-focused, energetic, optimistic, aspirational, ultra competent, inclusive, enabling, hopeful, new, and above all, history-defying, vision on the Left?
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You don't know? Nor do I. Sorry. But until we do, we're done as a country, as a society and as a party. We're tokenistic, doing no more than propping up an old idea that's producing a corrupt elite determined to rid themselves of any checks and balances whatsoever.
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Btw, it sounds like I do, but I don't, blame Brown, Miliband, Corbyn, Starmer personally. Well, perhaps a bit ahem. But they at least tried. I didn't. I'm not a politician. If we want democracy, we've got to have politicians.
They're not all the same. They're not all bad.
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I think I'll add another thought.
There's a thing here I predict no-one will like - not Corbyn left nor Starmer left (I refuse to call anyone in Labour Right).
One living leader did win elections. One. Repeatedly. Even once he was hated.
Thassit.