take it or leave it but this thread is generally the approach i take to answering the question of how we logically know God exists (which i actually think is valid). i think its the best approach because it backs the other person into a corner they cant get out of, usually.
there are some ways people normally try and get out of it, like “well yeah i actually do think the morality of X extreme situation youve painted is subjective” (not true, you can say they dont live like this but you cant really go forward from there, even tho ur correct) [...]
usually what people do is retreat into “well, i Personally think X is evil, yeah. thats my subjective view though”. this is a lot more tedious to power through because it essentially entails pinning them down on the fact that they dont really think its subjective. [...]
usually in that situation ill try appealing to some absurdity like, so why should X be illegal then? or, take the road of, so its subjective, like whether a painting is good, its subjective like that? youre still correct but IRL outside of a debate context it gets hyper tedious.
thats why i like going for the angle of “you dont live like this. you live as though what im saying is true”. its quick, memorable (for others), its obviously the case, its very difficult to fully weasel out of (because its so obviously the case). [...]
at that point because they cant keep going forward theyll turn back around + make it about u, like this guy did, you’re being dogmatic, you’re being XYZ, but if you just point out that theyre doing this because they cant keep going forward its pretty much over (because ur right)
this isnt “from” mere christianity but i think i started taking this approach because of the first chapter in that book, which i read a super long time ago and never stopped thinking about (because its so plainly and clearly true yet runs counter to “common wisdom” at this time).
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[warning i have 3 brain cells rn after not sleeping last night, typos etc]. a long time ago i made this thread about some “simple” questions i had about christianity, denominations, things therein. its interesting looking back on it bc now i would never ask these questions [..]
as ive gone deeper (or tried to) into figuring things out, i have a whole new stack of questions that i think generally fall into “sounds dumb but is actually somewhat essential”. as my thing is art making and figuring things out, i dont need to pretend to know anything [...]
so im happy to be the one to ask the questions that may make one seem unlearned, as im sure many other people want to know, or other people who actually know can tell us, or we can spark some interesting discussion. so, just gonna post them in this thread. lets go. theologica.
1000% convinced this was some type of op or something. in the suburbs there was [one] empty house lot with trees and we found porn there when i was a kid. its not random / part of a spontaneously originating phenomenon in the traditional sense.
some people are probably like “what” but its an oddly common thing people only realized was oddly common after discussing it online. no explanation without some level of intention for people (kids) to find this stuff makes any sense
yeah. idk exactly the mechanism but its not that hard to imagine a huge stack of unsold magazines or old ones or something + someone getting the idea to pay someone to hide them in wooded areas where kids would find them. sounds a little crazy but its a super common experience
i know this is the new “joke” / talking point that everyone is saying but the underlying psychology the joke rests on is interesting. it presumes that one cares what random people you pass on the street or in the supermarket assume your ideology or worldview to be.
this is one of the more interesting subtle divides i have noticed between people that cuts surprisingly deep. some people are really actually profoundly aware of what others might think of them, especially random people, it almost physically assails them. it is “real” to them.
the joke wouldnt work the other way because if wearing some item i was already wearing might make random people on the street think i had a different worldview i wouldnt care. why would i? in my experience this is intrinsic, you cant change it, reason out of it, its “set” in you.
unfortunately having the correct position has no correlation with rhetorical skill. people that have valid skepticism of [many things] generally get bulldozed because they dont take the right verbal approach. ur, validly, pointing to unknowns. u dont need to prove specifics [...]
so someone comes along and says, why wont you just let brian hold your money. youre saying hes stealing money right now? prove it. prove that he is stealing peoples money. you have literally no evidence or data to support that. and, maybe you dont, so it looks like you lose.
in this situation, all u need to do is prove that being skeptical or untrustworthy of brian is a valid position. thats it. the specifics literally dont matter at all. maybe he is stealing peoples money, maybe he isnt. u only have to show that its logical to not blindly trust him.
been a little slow on comics as i am securing a new space, rest assured i am flagellating myself in the driveway and wearing a hair shirt to an extent that is appropriate. i have a pretty heinous amount of [many things] on deck / in the drafts tho. i receive “the keys” tomorrow.
perhaps it is because i am male but i noticed that whatever aesthetic ability ive cobbled together over the years does not translate into IRL things like home and clothes. i have banned myself from choosing colors to paint the new rooms in, for the good of everyone, including me
me, choosing paint colors for the house: yeah we can do this room in dark purple, this will be the gold room, gotta have a black room, and a pink room, actually maybe we can get the classic vaporwave gradient in the hallway that leads to the pink room