They finally concede after more than a year: "Here, we report the identification of a novel lineage of SARSr-CoVs, including RaTG15 and seven other viruses, from bats at the same location where we found RaTG13 in 2015"
No mention to the miners or the mine. Just this: "in Tongguan town, Mojiang county, Yunnan province in China in 2015, the same location where we found bat
RaTG13 in 2013"
Yes, the same 8 viruses that were embargoed from November 2019 to June 2020.
Gentle reminder:
Attention to this. They deposited the sequences only in a Chinese repository. They have learned it is more difficult to censor critical data if deposited in foreign repositories.
No surprises, the RBD aa seq of Ra7909 is the same as in that slide that disappeared from the webinars.
"small" lapsus. The pre-print is focused on RaTG13 (or Ra7909, although association is not explicit). All the other viruses only appear one time: in Fig S1B. But "7896" seems special for naming FTP folders. If they had used a US repository, this would not have happened to them
Also in BIGD. The Scientific Name given is SARSr-CoV Rs7896
We now know the exact day of the trip. Same day for the range 7896-7952:
2015-05-29
The low variability we observed among the 8 RdRps has now been reduced more.
Old 7952 RdRp (MN312673) vs new 7952 RdRp (GWHBAUT01000001).
Changes exactly where 7952 was different vs the other viruses.
Now 7952 and 7909 RdRps are the same
7952 and 7909 are now only 8 nt different (in full genome!). This is the most strange thing for me. In Jinning the variability was huge. It was even mentioned in the new discovered theses
It seems they have all of this well prepared since at least 19-Mar-21
Let's make a bet, what name do you think they will choose again for next week?
We have the name of the next PLoS Pathog article of WIV:
Do not miss these tools of @babarlelephant. Babar was the 1st to show the proximity of these 8 viruses to SARS-CoV-2 in a phylogenetic tree.
AFAIK that tree was the only existing tree with these 8 viruses for 6 months.
Note: you can change "query" to 7909
🧵Natural and non-natural live isolates (WIV & related)
TLDR:
- A substantial portion of the research remains unpublished.
- Missing live isolate WIV15.
- No samples, isolates, chimeric and MA viruses in 2017-2019?
- What is "Rs4874" really?
https://t.co/9JPusWbl9l
First, it is very important to distinguish between a sequence and an isolated virus. Isolating a virus is very difficult. The ratio is perhaps one in hundreds sequenced. WIV has obtained thousands of virus sequences but only a few live viruses.
Misc:
- Rambaut now more involved (added to "Software" and "Data curation" in the contributions).
- The 155 cases turned now into 156 cases.
- Fig 1E then vs now (they forgot to update Fig 2B too).
- Fig 1A: many cases shifted East hundreds of m.
Judge yourself. They were looking for new SARS viruses different from SARS1 but this one found investigating a COVID-like outbreak in miners was not interesting and they made a mistake saying the miners had SARS antibodies.
Las declaraciones del Dr. Joan-Ramon Laporte Roselló (catedrático Farmacología, CV impresionante y sin COIs) en el Congreso, convocado por Podemos y PSOE, no han sentado nada bien. Le están tachando de "negacionista" sin refutar nada de lo que dice
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[48:25] Hay que vacunar a inmunodeprimidos, pero en niños y adolescentes puede ser contraproducente. La mayoría de los menores de 20 que han fallecido por COVID tenían enfermedades graves. Hay que huir de recetas oficiales y pensar críticamente. "Lo primero es no hacer daño" 2/n
[52:06] En los ensayos clínicos no se vio claro que vacunas salvaran vidas. Los datos epidemiológicos muestran que nos salvan de hospitalizaciones, pero no nos salvan de la transmisión. No debería contar para un certificado COVID.