A few points about "Chicken Pox parties", and why they should never have been part of any serious discussion of pandemic management thejournal.ie/dominic-cummin… 1/n
Like Covid, chicken pox is more likely to lead to severe illness and complications the older you are when you are first exposed. In the UK in the 1990s about 25 people died every year of the infection, 80% being adults ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P… 2/n
It is generally thought that on recovery from chicken pox immunity is lifelong. As a result in the 70s and 80s some people would arrange for their kids to be infected at an age they would be at lower risk of complications. This is not a good idea 3/n infectioncontrol.tips/2015/12/18/its…
For a start, chicken pox ain't fun (I know, I remember having it) and there are risks of complications. AND there's an effective vaccine available. There's a movement to call time on the practice. But we were talking about the pandemic... 4/n theguardian.com/society/2021/m…
Chicken pox parties in the 70s and 80s took place in a world in which almost all older people were immune already (because VSV, which causes it, is highly contagious and most would contract it as kids anyway) as a result the chance of infecting older folks was VERY low 5/n
In contrast, deliberately allowing large amounts of SARS-CoV-2 infections in younger age cohorts will not only expose *them* to risk, transmission from the young to older folks will expose them (and healthcare systems) to catastrophic risk 6/n
And even if a sufficient population of younger age groups become immune and the epidemic waned, it won't protect older age cohorts from future introductions including severe outbreaks. We tend to mix with people our own age, so those contact networks would remain vulnerable 7/n
These are not hard arguments to make. But the fact that anyone, around mid March 2020, was thinking in terms of chicken pox parties exposes a lethal attitude to basic ID epidemiology that contributed to the UK's disastrous first pandemic year 8/end

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27 May
I was wondering earlier today if change was afoot in the UK due to B.1.617.2, but @jburnmurdoch's thread is better than anything I could put together. It deserves your time. I do think it misses something out however. Hospitalizations are climbing much earlier than I'd expect 1/n
First it certainly looks like B.1.617.2 has become readily established, and is sweeping in multiple different places suggesting that it is more transmissible even than B.1.1.7, itself no slouch. IMO we can't put this down to founder effects/networks 2/n
(I still don't understand why given what *looks* like high transmissibility it has an MRCA so far back, but it's clearly capable of causing outbreaks like these. That's enough to take it seriously) 3/n Image
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25 May
How to start on the problems with this? Herd immunity to SARS-CoV-2 through unmitigated outbreaks comes at an abysmal cost in deaths, and chronic outcomes of infection. Ok we know that now but... 1/?
We knew that *then* theguardian.com/commentisfree/… 2/?
We knew it in the autumn too theguardian.com/commentisfree/… 3/?
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16 May
Thinking about the uncertain situation w B.1.617.2 in the UK as the country opens up, this is very good (no surprise, it's @adamhfinn answering the questions). I have a few additional points and a mild point of disagreement 1/n theguardian.com/world/2021/may…
The additional point - it's really not clear what is going on with 617.2. It has certainly been growing, but that doesn't necessarily mean it is (much) more transmissible. It may have merely had more opportunities 2/n
As more contacts and opportunities for transmission arise in the UK, we can expect them to result in more cases. Having said that of course, we need to ask why one lineage rather than another is lucky enough to take those opportunities - maybe it's more than luck 3/n
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16 May
Upon seeing this I had to go look for what prompted it. Although that might not have been the intent of the original post, I’m glad I did 1/n
Here’s the preprint. It’s not clear why MIT should feel ‘shame’ (isn’t academic freedom a good thing?) or what it has to do with the prolific aforementioned scientist. arxiv.org/pdf/2101.07993… 2/n
If nothing else, we need to accept that preprints happen, that sometimes they are less good than regularly published work and sometimes they are better. They have a special role in a rapidly changing situation like this 3/n
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10 May
There will be a lot of people answering this the obvious way, but what strikes me is that *even now* there’s not enough immunity from prior infection in Sweden to stop this happening.
Whatever else that means, it suggests that population protection through infection induced immunity is not going to happen without bad consequences. The idea might have been defensible at the start when we were more uncertain about severity, it hasn’t been for some time
If people compare per capita mortality in Sweden with elsewhere note that an appropriate comparison is the other Nordic countries, all of which took a very different route, rather than other European countries with their own stories
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It’s great that public health has been getting some recognition. Many 🙏🏼. If you’d like to donate to help this work, which is mostly done by really underpaid and devoted people, here are some ideas. @MSF_USA @CEPIvaccines @PIH @NFIDvaccines for a start 1/n
If you want to help public health donating to established non profits is better than say, someone from twitter on patreon, for a bunch of reasons. For a start there’s oversight of where your $ go and an existing system of governance, hopefully with accountability! 2/n
I don’t want to deter donations to new initiatives like @crisisreadiness, but just to point out that if you really want to help, think about the best way to help 3/3
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