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28 May, 17 tweets, 7 min read
This is a great thread which uses the on-chain data from last weeks to prove that passive LP strategies on $UNI v3 will be substantially outperformed by active LP strategies (e.g. developed by @VisorFinance). Let me add a few comments to emphasize how big this difference can be.
TL;DR:
- Current comparisons of LP strategies in $UNI v3 overoptimistically present performance of passive ones.
- Passive LPing doesn't stand a chance vs active.
- Bullish on active LP strategy providers, i.e. $VISR
1) @fusion_hodl made a great comparison of passive vs active LP strategy for ETH-USDT since v3 launch. These 3 weeks have been very generous for LPs in this pool. Huge market volatility resulted in a lot of fees and relatively low impermanent loss (IL).
2) Even ETH-USDT v2 with its huge TVL of $200-$300M offered a good earning opportunity in last 30 days. ETH went up, then down, and up again, coming back close to initial price. That's a perfect scenario for LPs. But life of LP is usually not that good...
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3) In a long term ETH-USDT pool suffers from a substantial IL (as long as number goes up) which is not offset by trading fees in v2 if you don't average your entry prices to the pool. In v3, without re-adjusting price ranges, it would be even worse...
4) Assuming v3 was live earlier and you provided liquidity for ETH-USDT on range 1000-2000$, when ETH went above 2000$, your pool would be left with USDT only. All your ETH would be sold to USDT. This is substantially higher IL than you would suffer in v2.
5) That's why re-adjusting price ranges on volatile pairs in v3 is a necessity. Without this you are not LP, you basically set up a range order to buy/sell some tokens and earn trading fees during its execution. Very cool but it's not LPing.
6) If you want to passively earn from LPing in a long period of time, e.g. a year, your price brackets will have to be substantially wider than +/- 20% to be in earning range 67% of time. For last 12 months an exemplary range would be about 250$-1850$.
7) Ignoring the fact that above 1850$ you wouldn't have any ETH left (ngmi), your wide range wouldn't really benefit from the biggest feature of v3, i.e. concentrated liquidity. The wider your range is, the more similar to v2 it becomes. So what's the point of LPing in v3 then?
8) I'm trying to make a point that the impressive outcome of 170% APR for passive LPing in last 30 days is too optimistic to use as a benchmark. We can't assume that ETH-USDT LPing in +/- 20% range will yield such high APR in a longer term.
9) This would only be true if ETH-USDT kept crabbing in the same range as last month. But as soon as it decides to go up or down, your passive LP strategy become obsolete and has to be adjusted. Otherwise, you won't earn anything (and be left with only one token from the pair).
10) Frequent adjustment of price ranges maximizes yield from your LP strategy. Wide range increases probability of capturing market price to collect trading fees. Tighter range earns more than wide range but is also more difficult to maintain and riskier.
11) @VisorFinance maximizes LP yield for you. So far it's been only 3x better than exemplary passive strategy of +/- 20% but in a longer term passive APR would only go down. Active LP strategies will always substantially outperform passive ones.
12) You could try to become a profitable active LP by keeping the range tight and adjusting it frequently. It does not only take a lot of time to monitor your position but it also costs a lot.
13) Each adjustment means you need to remove liquidity from current position and add liquidity to a new one. I calculated how much it costs depending on the network congestion when ETH = 2800$ (it becomes linearly more expensive when ETH price goes up). Image
14) To justify manual adjustments of price ranges, you need to maintain a reasonably sized position which earns substantially more than you pay in transaction fees and covers the opportunity cost of time you spend on this. You also need to have a strategy.
15) I mentioned it earlier and I will say it again:

Most individuals won't be able to compete with professional automated market making strategies on Uni v3. The great majority won't even want to try because of costs and complexity.

Bullish for $VISR.

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