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Ayurveda for management of Alzheimers disease or AD

Wear your seat belts bcoz this is a crash course in ultimate pseudoscience nonsense - 'twisted' to look credible with weak evidences

Let is discuss with this thread as an example

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The author of the thread, very explicitly state that there is NO CURE for AD. It is true, treatment is aimed at reducing symptoms, delaying progression and improving quality of life.

Now see what he does next.
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He now strongly brings in Allopathy (or modern medicine which is what he meant)...

as ther is no treatment for AD in Allopathy.
Bcoz there is no Allopathy in 2021.

So the use of the word Allopathy means...

...the author of the thread is naiive, amateur.

But leave that...
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...and see the masterstroke

He first says there is no cure or reversal of AD

Then discusses modern med to falsely portray helplessness of science and then BOOM!

brings in Ayurveda to show false hope
He puts "REVERSING" in quotes - meaning, it is not proven yet

Nice move..
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..Now he appeals to nature/faith/balance/energy and all spiritual jargon to show Ayurveda is on a different plane than modern med...

...to give false credibility

See paragraph
If u luk close, there is no science in there.
Its is utter nonsense

Biological air humor is comedy
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Now after appealing to your emotions, culture, faith and spirituality, he puts in few lines with scientific statements in them

But luk close - herbs that have SHOWN PROMISE

This is like the SAME promise of vaccinating whole of India by June 30.

Got it?😀
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Now he brings in the traditional herbs ALONG WITH scientific jargon - adaptogens, immune system, oxidation

- to make you teary eyed with nationalism!

Yes and who do we have here!
Yupp, our fav Ashwaganda

All total hogwash. Preclinical work. Garbage...
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...but the author strongly feels for Ashwaganda becoz these are Indian traditional herbs AND WE HAVE to find a place for them in our hearts.

So he quotes a clinical study.
This one bit.ly/2TAorJM
From 2008🙄 an underpowered mess.

Many such rubbish studies followed
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...and then without a single proper citation, the author proclaims Ashwaganda can INCREASE memory.

This is like saying, I bought a Maruti Suzuki filled it with Speed Petrol and now I drive a Ferrari.

Ashwaganda does zilch to your memory
Actually forget u even read that.
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..now again comes the science jargon.

Pay attention..

He uses words like regeneration and reconstruction to HIDE for what Ayurveda cannot describe.

What is reconstruction of neurons?

Mayb Ayurveda considers human brain as a big LEGO block wer energy flows thru the hinges
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And nw

enter the dragon

Turmeric😎

Author makes a lame statement borrowed from the lame article he is regurgitating, saying Asian cuisine has more turmeric and hence less AD in India

Like correlating number of Rambo movies made
to the number of earthquakes in the world
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Now he shows "evidence" for turmeric reversing AD in...

...Mouse.

So if you are a mouse, bathe and loathe in turmeric.
No issues there.

But are you a mouse?
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Now the next useless character enters.

Brahmi. It is so useless, that you'll find only mostly cell, tissue and mouse studies on it.

But hey! For pseudoscience like Ayurveda, thats enough to sell the product!
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The author then goes on about OTHER herbs which are EXACTLY useless like these discussed herbs for AD.

And no evidence cited!

But you dont need them becoz now India is in your heart and mind and not science!
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And then he makes the only true statement in all of the tweets in the thread he made.

Which is ,

ALL of the nonsense on Ayurvedic treatment for AD was from a 2012 narrative review article in which the authors of the article themselves state that......
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….report summarizes information concerning the phytochemistry, biological, and cellular activities and clinical applications of these various plants in order to provide sufficient baseline information that could be used in drug discovery campaigns and development process😶
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The author finally ends by asking for more followers.
Effective 😐

So is there evidence for Ayurvedic management of AD?

Absolutely not!

But lets not belittle Ayurveda or demonize it.

Lets proof it!
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Ashwaganda for memory, cognition
NO BENEFITS, need more studies
sciencedirect.com/science/articl…

Brahmi for memory - NO EVIDENCE, need better studies pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24252493/

Turmeric
No evidence pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30575152/
Absolutely no evidence xiahepublishing.com/2472-0712/ERHM…

Dream on

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Apr 20
Breaking: Our exhaustive paper on liver toxicity of various herbs/ plants used in Ayurveda, Naturopathy, Unani, Siddha and Homeopathy (Ayush) systems of alternative medicine is out now (free to read)
with @arifhussaintm

This paper was initially an invited paper by an Indian journal. The reviewers and Editorial board rejected the "invited" paper because they thought the paper was "too critical" of traditional, cultural and religious [unscientific] aspects of healthcare practice among Indian community and feared backlash from the alternative systems regulatory body (Ayush Ministry) and Ayurveda and Homeopathy practitioners & their organizations of they accepted their own "invited" paper.

The Indian medical science community is now hostage to it's unscientific past due to a deepening lack of scientific temperament among doctors, worrying knee-jerk response style assault from the alternative medicine industry/practitioners/regulators and general apathy towards patients & public health. It's disappointing.

Since they were spineless to publish our factual paper, we sent this to a neutral journal for peer review (which is got through) and paid open access publication fee, so that everyone could read it for free.

Please read and share this important paper which educates physicians on herbal liver toxicity from seemingly benign plant sources which they need to be aware of.

The subsequent posts also highlights infographics summary of various toxic Ayush-based botanicals that are increasingly reported to harm public and patients.

Thanks in advance, and I hope doctors in India start fearlessly respecting science rather than intentionally embracing ignorance & selfishly covering up themselves in a safety bubble, thereby endangering public health in the process.journals.lww.com/md-journal/ful…Image
Continued: Summary on Tinospora cordifolia (Giloy) Image
Continued: Summary on Withania somnifera (Ashwagandha) Image
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The classical response from Ayurveda practitioners or Ayurveda sympathizers (and other alternative medicine practitioners) when debating the role of alternative medicine in healthcare is to "go and study Ayurveda or read Ayurveda" to understand it better. This is a logical fallacy, a kind of escapism. Dr. Kanojia here, has not read the Ayurvedic texts, which is why, he keeps fielding for Ayurveda.

India has a 5 year teaching course for students for Bachelors in Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery called BAMS.

I have the complete syllabus collection of all curriculum approved text books of Ayurveda in my home library. I spent almost two years reading every single book taught in BAMS syllabus.

Classical Ayurvedic teaching material is rich in misogyny, nauseatingly magical thinking, extreme levels of animal cruelty and meat eating, primitive observations, primal herbal and interventional therapies and principles of practice based on obsolete humoral and elemental theories of disease formation and diagnosis.

For example:

For treatment of large tumors, honey was applied over the growth, flies are allowed to lay eggs on the tumor and the maggots are allowed to eat the tumor from within. The residual tumor is then burned off.

For women in obstructive labor, the hips, buttocks are beaten, the lady is made to inhale smoke from burned snake skin and feathers are used for tickling.

For the treatment of tuberculosis (there was no germ theory at the time, but descriptions of emaciation in tuberculosis was observed) the patient is fed herbs and made to drink alcohol (alcohol is in fact one of the risk factors for tuberculosis as we know now) and cure is achieved by massages from "beautiful ladies."

For treatment of seizures in children, demons were considered the cause (they still teach this in the BAMS curriculum) and such demonic possessions were slayed using prayers and chants.

For treatment of diabetes (there was no knowledge of actual diabetes, it was called Premeha and there were different types of Premeha based on diet/ activity, semen quality and based on "doshas". Ayurvedic texts describe some of the causes of "diabetes" to eating meat and drinking milk. There are nearly 20 types of diabetes described in Ayurveda - which of course, is nonsense.

For treatment of sexual disorders, testicles of various types of animals were boiled with herbs and the formulation applied or drank to increase sexual prowess and to "have sex with a 1000 women."

The bottom line is, if you actually read/study the Ayurvedic texts, you'll realize how completely absurd & pseudoscientific the whole system is and you'll never vouch for it again. I am sharing some excerpts from BAMS textbooks in the subsequent post.

Do not send your children to study BAMS and of course, do not read these texts. I did, so that you dont have to. It will take you to a dark place.
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Number of people dead due to small pox after 1980
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Diphtheria

Number of deaths in 1920's before introduction of vaccine, reported annually in the United States - 13,000 to 15,000.

Number of deaths reported from 1996 to 2018 in the United States - ONE.
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Survivors - disabled for life.

Number of cases after 1994 in Western Hemisphere
- ZERO.
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