After digging into December 2019 COVID-19 events, a significant cluster of... shadows relating to September and October 2019 emerged. This is the thread in which we'll gather everything unusual from August 2019 to mid-December 2019, just so we've got a net wide enough.
This is a refinement of the thread here , focusing mostly on conversation with @tehknein @lab_leak @scotub.
One odd pattern is reports from athletes who participated in the World Military Games in Wuhan in Oct 2019 and reported Covid-like illnesses:
Another is several mentions of cases of "Pneumonic plague" which was used to lock down villages
Mentions of US intelligence reports in November passed to Israel and NATO:
This interview with an African student in Wuhan locked down mentioning cases of pneumonia in September:
Marion Koopmans (Erasmus MC prof, early knower, Feb 1 2020 meeting participant, and WHO "inspector") confirms that WIV scientists fell ill in fall 2019 nbcnews.com/nightly-news/v…
Seems like some sort of "novel coronavirus" "exercise" happened in 18 September 2019 at Wuhan airport?
Shi Zhengli apparently had her virus database go offline on September 12th. She later claimed it was taken down due to cybersecurity concerns during the pandemic..
Mobile data suggests October shutdown at WIV? nbcnews.com/politics/natio…
Congress investigating whether the World Military Games in Wuhan were global superspreader event? archive.is/aSRNX
Appears that EcoHealth's project with WIV, under the umbrella of the larger PREDICT project had its funding ended somewhere in this zone. The article here is from October, but does not say when the project ended. I remember, but can't cite, a Sep end date. nytimes.com/2019/10/25/hea…
This is a live thread, please respond with any relevant events you can spot from August 2019 to middle of Dec 2019 and, if they feel generally sane, I will append them to the main thread.
A little bit more on the October mobile phone irregularities suggesting a shutdown:
Reuters reporting possible cases back to October 2019 -
For reference, a tentative hypothesis to tie together everything we have. Not something to get hung up on, but maybe a strawman to play with:
Fascinating idea on data that might exist in the US or within its reach. @BretWeinstein @joerogan you may be able to help shed light on the origins of COVID if you see this:
Idle thought: an earlier start of the pandemic helps a natural origin hypothesis slightly, as it gives time for the virus to have adapted to spread efficiently in humans. Thus, I find it odd that this area is kept dark by zoonosis advocates. Might it hide something even darker?
"patient su": 61 year old woman in Wuhan who became ill on September 29 and eventually died. Given there was no test performed, this is only a suspected case. dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9…
Italy's first known patient is believed to be a 25 year-old woman who had a biopsy for an unusual skin condition on November 10 2019: thelocal.it/20210112/italy…
France's first known positive case was tested for flu on Dec 27, then retroactively confirmed with COVID-19. He likely caught it from his wife who worked at a supermarket near an airport where passengers often stop to shop. dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8…
French and Italian players at the Military World Games have come out and declared they believe they got Covid at Wuhan or got ill upon returning. A strong correlation has been found with US military bases that had members attend the games also. prospect.org/coronavirus/di…
Two Canadian participants have also claimed to have experienced covid-like symptoms financialpost.com/diane-francis/…
According to documents made available by Rebel News (make what you will of the source, they make the original docs available), a third of the Canadian delegation to the Games was quarantined on their plane ride in the back of the airplane... rebelnews.com/covid_coverup_…
At this point a useful reminder of why the sources you see are the kind considered "unreputable". The answer is in the question. Media properties without a position within the establishment to defend are more likely to run with a story that goes against the official narrative.
Similar stories are circulating in Sweden... thelocal.se/20200505/the-c…
Posting here this report from Iran though the dates are not mentioned, in case someone can find something more. It numbers 11 dead athletes as extracted from social media. 😢 We're as likely to get data from Iran as from China due to close diplomatic ties. en.radiofarda.com/a/eleven-athle…
It's becoming increasingly clear that *something* happened at the Military games, please post here any other country delegation strangeness that you find and I will try to append it. Somehow athletes dying in their prime is a different kind of sadness.
I'm starting to wonder why Shi Zhengli would volunteer the fact that their work was being done in BSL-2 and BSL-3 labs. They've been able to obscure so many other details, why volunteer this one that would put a target on her? Is WIV setting itself up as a red herring?
Study from Brazil picks up SARS-CoV2 in sewage from November 27 2019 onwards. Importantly the samples from early November and late October were negative, while all the ones after Nov 27 are positive. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
It seems like the kind of international data we will be getting for late 2019 will be athletes flying home from the Military World Games, and sewage/wastewater testing. If the various locations can somehow be correlated, and perhaps corroborated via epidemiology, we may have sth.
I haven't heard this discussed in a while, but it seems the Wuhan CDC lab moved in December 2 acording to the WHO report. Of course, labs and entire buildings don't move in a day. This could be the endpoint of a process that was ongoing for a while. Hmm...
Ah, as usual @TheSeeker268 has the scoop. It seems the lab may have been on the move since May or even earlier:
There was even a large-scale project, advertised end of July 2019, to dispose of 2 tons of hazardous chemical waste that had not been properly treated from 1994 to 2019...
It seems Wuhan CDC was doing significant work with bat coronaviruses, including hosting a bat colony, and one particular researcher had been filmed collecting bat samples in.. not what one might call the best way. h/t @tehknein
I wonder if the focus on WIV is due to the BSL-4 lab which we now know was not relevant in the coronavirus research. But if so, why isn't there equivalent focus on the lab that was not even 300 meters from the seafood market?
Spitballing here, but, how unlikely is it that somewhere on the move of the Wuhan CDC lab, or the disposal of the waste, something was handled improperly, and someone got infected? Especially given the warnings we've seen about the lack of trained technicians....
If that infection somehow got to the 9000+ Military World Games athletes that were in Wuhan in October 2019, you don't need much more to have a complete story.
Sounds like the sort of thing one might want to avoid:
Woah, this is absolutely insane. Traffic spike in Wuhan hospitals in September/October 2019 before the lockdown --
Intriguing work on using this here platform to detect early signs of covid outbreaks in fall/winter of 2019 nature.com/articles/s4159…
I wonder if this study holds up. I do know the Lombardy region is well-connected to China due to industrial and trade links...

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