A discussion on the term "वर्णसंङ्कर" (Gita 1.41-1.43)
What does this term means?
Children born out of the "Intercaste marriages" or Children born out of the "adultery"? Or something else
Q:- Does the term Varnasankar only means "the result of Intercaste marriage?
A:- The term mainly means such. The other meanings denotes the son born out of "सगोत्र विवाह, व्याभिचार" as varnasankar.

The broken यज्ञोपवीत tradition also result into Varnasankarta.
Q:- What is the pramana for this?
A:- Manusmriti 10.24 describes the same thing. But they are the वर्णसंकरता by प्रकारांतर the main वर्णसंकरता lies in result of Intercaste marriage.

{Note:- the term does not means first*}
Q:- Do these verses mean "varnasankarta due to adultery"?
A:- Yes but not only adultery.

Q:- Do they mean varnasankarta due to intercaste?
A:- Yes.

Q:- are there commentaries to support this claim?
A:- Yes we have commentaries to support both the claims.
तत्वप्रकाशिका of Keshav Bhāt
तात्पर्यबोधिनी of शंकरानन्द
भावप्रकाश of Sadananāda &
परमार्थप्रपा mentions that Intercaste is the reason of #कुलक्षय .

Other acharyas have written only संकर or have talked about the leaving of jati dharma or adultery
This leaving of Jati dharma and Adultery covers the #विवाह in other varna too. Some acharyas have written that indulging in relationship with same husband (because he has killed his relatives) will make one वर्णसंकर.
All these secondary संकरता's (of leaving Yajnopavita and swakarma) have prayschitas which nullifies the doshas.

But once you indulge in ICM then the way is not easy for the child. He is a संकर.
Conclusion:- These shlokas talks about all short of Sankarta. The वर्णसंकरता by #intercaste and the सांकर्य generated by leaving स्वकर्म.

If you choose first one the ways for you are over, If you are on the path of second one then you have to do lot of Prayschits.

Reject Both

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with VedaEchoes

VedaEchoes Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @vedaechoesji

18 Jul
✨Slavery in Vedas✨

There are random articles on the internet which interprets the term दास, दासी as Slaves or "female Slaves". They try to prove this similar to the western slavery. Lets have a look at their claims:-,
Yesterday,Someone DMed this to me. I wasn't able to find the original source.

I looked at all the similar claims and I found out that all the articles have imagined "slavery" and injustice just by the word Dasā and provided nothing to substantiate their claims.
Be it the references from the rigveda samhita or the brahman of the samhita( ऐतरेय) They just mention the term दास or दासी. They do not mention what is done to them,what are their Works.
It can't be called slavery. It is "servitude"
Read 15 tweets
17 Jul
Very wrong‼️Modern Hindus must restart the philosophy of Ved Nindak Charvakas. Charvaka Darshan accepts only "प्रत्यक्ष "

Mimansa accepts 5-6, Vedanta accepts 4-6. Nyaya accepts 4 Pramanas. All Darshanas accept Shabda pramana.
तस्माच्छास्त्रं प्रमाणं ते (BG 16.24)
The truth does not lie under pratyaksha pramana it is beyond all 6 pramanas It is called अप्रमेय.
प्रत्यक्ष in nyaya means the connection of Senses with the object. Experience is not pratyaksha...
Simple question how do you know "shri krishna said that in shrimadbhagvadgita"

Itihasa can't be प्रत्यक्ष, anumana can't work here. You are accepting शब्द प्रमाण and then rejecting it on your books. Very nice
Read 6 tweets
15 Jul
Whatever I'm going to write further, Use it in the case of this mantra only. Don't try to use it everywhere..

This verse exist in the famous Indra- Indrani samvad suktam or Vrishakapi suktam. People show the commentary of Sripad Damodar Satavlekar (available on govt website) Image
At first how can someone take the Injuction such as "Killing a cow" from the words "they cook bulls". Are they same animals? no. Do they have same value for us? no, cow is definitely supreme..

No logic,no proof, no context".
Acharya sayana has used the word "वृषभ" in his commentary, because it's a sanskrit term we can find interpretations with valid meaning. But Satavlekar ji has directly used "बैल" in his commentary. Image
Read 23 tweets
14 Jul
Recently the Government of Uttar Pradesh has passed the population control Bill and many governments are planning to do it in future.
Here is a short analysis of the policies ( Taken from my instagram post)
I have seen guys celebrating because the population of "Muzlims" will decrease they care nothing about their own population and families.
SP Minister said :- "No matter how many laws you make,one who has to take birth will take birth"
Read 10 tweets
13 Jul
Suggested Short Read:-
✨The wonderful Dialogues"
The questions of Dalit leader "Shri Suraj Bhan ji"(The Previous Governor of UP and HP) and the reply given by HH Puri Shankracharya ji✨
Sooraj Bhan ji was the former governor of Uttarpradesh and Himanchal. He started his Childhood education in an arya samaji gurukul. Being distressed He later joined a school run by Jains. He was a face of Dalit upliftment.

The incident I'm going to narrate occurred in aug 2002 .
He reached Sringeri Shankracharya peetham to meet HH Shankracharya Bharti Tirth MahaSwami. He sought the support of Sringeri Shankracharya ji "to delete the objectionable statements regarding Shudras from Manusmriti and others.
Read 12 tweets
4 Jul
✨Story of Brahma and ma Saraswati✨
Are they Husband-wife? Father-daughter or something else?
Long thread but you'll understand it in one go. Please continue till end.
The claim that people make is: - In the Vedas & Puranas it is written that " Brahma ji married his own daughter Saraswati . For this they give references from Rigveda Samhita ( 10.61.5-7 ) Aitareya Brahmana ( 3.9.13-33 ) , SrimadBhagvatam(7.11) , Matsya purana and various others
Here is the story from SrimadBhagvatam

इतिहासपुराणाभ्यां वेदं समुपबृंहयेत् ।। ( Mahabharta 1-1-293 ) one has to decode and expand the meaning of Vedas through the Help of Puranas . We are going to look at this story in the light of Vedas , puranas and traditional Acharyas .
Read 16 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Too expensive? Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal Become our Patreon

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us on Twitter!

:(