@lettherebespite@palace71@AiG Well, it is "Answers in Genesis", so you can hardly expect cogent, careful analysis. Or logic. The so-called "Nazareth Inscription" has been used by apologists as evidence of ... something or other ... since its publication in 1930. Exactly how this inscription somehow ...
@lettherebespite@palace71@AiG ... "confirms the Resurrection" isn't very clear. The AiG article declares breathlessly that it's "a powerful piece of extrabiblical evidence that Christ’s Resurrection was already being proclaimed shortly after He was raised" without explaining how. But the "reasoning" seems ...
@lettherebespite@palace71@AiG ... to be "(i) it's about bodies and tombs, (ii) some claimed Jesus body had been removed from his tomb, (iii) therefore .... *waves hands* ... the Resurrection!" Apparently it's supposed to show there was some dispute about Jesus' body's fate (as noted in Matt 28:11-15) and ...
@lettherebespite@palace71@AiG ... the emperor Claudius responded with this rescript set up in Jesus' home town. There are all kinds of problem with this not-very-coherent idea.
Firstly, the date of the inscription is not clear and nothing dates it to the reign of Claudius. AiG states this as the date, but ...
@lettherebespite@palace71@AiG ... that is based on a chain of reasoning that has the inscription being *found* in Nazareth and Galilee (including Nazareth) coming under direct Roman rule in AD 44, so this is the earliest a Roman edict would be publicly posted there - making the likely date during the reign...
@lettherebespite@palace71@AiG ... of Claudius (AD 41-54). But we don't know that the inscription was *found* in Nazareth. The catalogue note of the antiquities collector Wilhelm Fröhner in 1878 simply says it was "sent from Nazareth" to Paris, not that it had been excavated there. Nazareth was a centre of ...
@lettherebespite@palace71@AiG ... the antiquities trade in the late nineteenth century. In 2020 isotope analysis on the inscription's stone found it came not from Palestine but from a quarry on the island of Kos. So we have no idea if it has an origin in Galilee or just ended up there. The inscription ...
@lettherebespite@palace71@AiG ... just refers to an "edict of Caesar" with no other identifiers. This was most common for edicts by Augustus, with later emperors appending other names ("Tiberius" etc) to differentiate themselves from their predecessor. That would make the edict too early to have anything ...
@lettherebespite@palace71@AiG ... to do with Jesus. The claim that desecration of bodies was not a common thing and so this inscription has to refer to something or other to do with Jesus is simply nonsense. We have multiple laws issued and re-issued by Roman rulers about desecration of tombs - the Romans ...
@lettherebespite@palace71@AiG ... were highly superstitious about disturbing the dead and doing so was a way of violating a family's honour. Thus the laws and the heavy penalties. The inscription itself refers to the crime as being as serious as anything "concerning the gods in human religious observance" ...
@lettherebespite@palace71@AiG ... and so worthy of the severest punishment, as do similar other laws on tomb breaking. The reference to "the gods" also indicates a Gentile origin for the inscription, not a Jewish one. Finally, the (bad) Greek of the inscription actually doesn't mention bodies at all - it ...
@lettherebespite@palace71@AiG ... just talks about breaking into tombs and "[making] off with what was buried in them" or "moving ... the buried". It seems to be more about grave robbing than anything to do with carrying off corpses.
Finally, why the hell a Roman emperor would feel the need to deliver a ...
@lettherebespite@palace71@AiG ... rescript addressing some squabble between two groups of Jews over a specific incident of apparent grave violation a decade earlier I have no idea. Or why he would have this (bad) Greek inscription put up in the tiny village of Nazareth and not Jerusalem, where the ...
@lettherebespite@palace71@AiG ... apparent inciting incident took place is also totally unclear. The whole thing makes no sense.
It's easy to see how apologists get excited by an inscription about tombs and bodies given that it is supposedly from Nazareth. But it probably isn't from Nazareth, probably ...
@lettherebespite@palace71@AiG ... pre-dated Jesus and Christianity and most likely has nothing to do with either. Answers in Genesis is, as usual, garabge.
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Just when you think you've seen all the strange myths about the Middle Ages, a new one appears. The Twitter account of the BBC panel show QI posted the following image yesterday, declaring "In the ...
... Middle Ages, eating breakfast was believed to be an affront to God". This attracted a predictable response, with various comments about how stupid medieval people were, how weird this was and how this was evidence of the stupidity of religion etc. It also attracted some ...
... well justified requests for some kind of substantiation, from @fakehistoryhunt and others, including me. Some commenters claimed that Aquinas had declared breakfast fell under sub-category of gluttony: namely eating "praepropere", too soon or too hastily. But when ...
This kid has been mangling the history around the Galileo Affair for a couple of years now, and he really needs to stop.
(i)The Church actually *did* declare it was open to the idea that the earth went around the sun. They had been so when they had sponsored and actively ...
... encouraged Coperncius a century earlier, with the Pope even favourably receiving a lecture on his theories before his court in the Vatican Gardens in 1533. The problem was that the Copernican Model was full of scientific holes, and so was rejected by almost all ...
@Zodian18@CosmicSkeptic No. This kid has been mangling the history around the Galileo Affair for a couple of years now, and he really needs to stop.
(i) The Church actually *did* declare it was open to the idea that the earth went around the sun. They had been so when they had sponsored and ...
@Zodian18@CosmicSkeptic ... actively encouraged Coperncius a century earlier, with the Pope even favourably receiving a lecture on his theories before his court in the Vatican Gardens in 1533. The problem was that the Copernican Model was full of scientific holes, and so was rejected by almost all ...
@Zodian18@CosmicSkeptic ... scientists. But in 1615 Cardinal Bellarmine, who a year later made the ruling against Galileo’s theological interpretations based on Copernicanism, made it perfectly clear in his open letter to Foscarini that *IF* those scientific objections were overcome and a ...
I like the way this meme about “the Middle Ages” (illustrated, of course, by a *seventeenth century* painting) has done nothing but allow people to demonstrate that ... they know absolutely nothing about the actual Middle Ages.
“I’d be burned as a witch!”
Doubtful, given the Witch Craze came a few centuries later.
“I’d invent the steam engine!”
Really? So you’ve built a lot of working steam engines from scratch, have you? And you have, off the top of your head, a detailed working knowledge of their technical specifications sufficient to build one? No, didn’t think so.
@Allison23829042@Lionheart213072@dat_Godwoman Stating "it's right" is not making an argument. I gave you a link to my article where I go into the "Dec 25 = a Mithraic feast" and show why actual scholars (as opposed to some illiterate dork on Wiki) reject that claim.
Plutarch's mention *may* mean Mithraism pre-dated ...
@Allison23829042@Lionheart213072@dat_Godwoman ... Christianity. Or it may mean some Cilician pirates worshiped the Persian form of the god. Modern Mithraic scholars agree that the Persian Mithra and the Roman Mithras actually had little in common and the Roman cult began in the first century. Not that it matters - pre-...
@Allison23829042@Lionheart213072@dat_Godwoman ... dating Christianity does not equal influencing it. Which is what you're supposed to be showing.
Halos were a common iconographic element in Mediterranean symbolism generally, so to claim Christianity "stole" them from Mithraism is ridiculous - both used the symbolism of ...
Thankfully, the depiction of Hypatia of Alexandria on *The Good Place* didn't perpetuate any of the usual pseudo historical nonsense about her, even if it was slightly odd. I really cannot see how a Kantian like Chidi would have found the rather mystical neo-Platonism of the ...
... school of Plotinus attractive, though the show did depict her as a childhood hero of his, so maybe he was more into that sort of thing as a kid. Or maybe the writers just didn't do much homework on what neo-Platonists believed. Anyway, if the show didn't boost the myths ...
... about Hypatia, that's more than can be said for some of the commentary about it. Take this piece from *Esquire* which claims it "explains" who she was. esquire.com/entertainment/…