At the risk of boiling down too much and certainly losing some detail, one way to summarize this wonderful thread is that when we think about vaccine effectiveness, we should think of 4 key variables: 1 which vaccine, 2 age of the person, 3 how long after vax, 4 vs what outcome.
We've been using the simple view that the major vaccines in use in the US/Europe are possibly less effective against infection/symptoms when a variant is involved, but remain highly effective against severe outcomes. Published data so far support this view.
To be more precise, we would say "so far in the general population, up to about 6 months after vaccination, the vaccines have held up against severe outcomes even from Delta, though there is some evidence from Israel, UK, and Canada of declines in effectiveness vs infection."
As more data come out, we should account for these different variables in interpretation. As shown in @celinegounder tweet 64, some measures can go up with time (affinity maturation); tweet 43 shows others go down with time
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Oops I should have said 5 things, including the variant in question of course.
There has been much concern about vaccine effectiveness waning, due to levels of important immune effectors declining over time. @celinegounder very importantly (& I haven't seen this said elsewhere) notes that correlates measured just after vaccination may not be key effectors
Still reasonable to assume that some effectors that do matter for protection will decline if we wait long enough post-vaccine, as is the case for many other vaccines.
Variants that are more infectious and/or more readily escape immune responses may pose a greater challenge for protection.
In general the strength of immune response needed to prevent severe outcomes (hospitalization, death) is less than that required to prevent milder outcomes (infection, transmission), and that has been consistent w more decline in effect vs milder outcomes in presence of variants.
Last, older and immunocompromised people start with weaker immune responses.
Putting all this together, the strongest signs of waning protection will likely be in the people vaccinated longest ago, with the least effective vaccines, with the weakest immune responses at baseline, against the milder outcomes.
So the key will be to observe whether the indications of lower effectiveness are consistent with these expectations (in which case a biological explanation is more plausible compared to artifacts of detection) and whether the indications of lower effectiveness...
"trickle up" to the higher levels of severity, where detection of cases is likely more consistent and less dependent on behavior and testing.
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Different approach from many other VE studies, following HCW vaccinated vs unvaccinated, tested when exposed to a case, to assess VE against infection given exposure, consistent with our recommendations in sciencedirect.com/science/articl…
Also looked at infectiousness (proxied by Ct). Take home messages: fully vaccinated 65% (45-79) protected against infection given exposure. This is lower than other estimates of symptomatic or arbitrary mix of symptomatic and other cases, as expected.
In which we show that earlier work by Rinta-Kokko et al on interpreting prevalence measures for vaccine efficacy generalizes to the COVID-19 case pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19490983/ and that the odds ratio for PCR+ in vax vs unvax persons swabbed at random
is under reasonable assumptions a lower bound on the vaccine's effect against transmission, the critical quantity for herd immunity that combines reduced risk of acquiring and shorter duration.
In contrast this statement is illogical “However, since we observed all notable SARS-CoV-2 features, including the optimized RBD and polybasic cleavage site, in related coronaviruses in nature, we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible.”
This tweet got me thinking again about a topic that's been on my mind for the last several weeks and throughout the pandemic. In principle I fully agree with @flodebarre that people should evaluate arguments for logical soundness and consistency with facts, not who makes them.
But many people have asked me (most recently @AmyDMarcus) how thoughtful people should know whom to trust in getting information (science) and advice (for personal actions) and opinions (about policy) on a topic like COVID
Consistent with @flodebarre's tweet, my first response was you shouldn't trust anyone intrinsically, but should trust good arguments. As a scientist, that is how we are (or should be, there is still too much hero worship in our field) trained.
I and many other @cambridgeWG support proper investigation of SARS-CoV-2 origins including the lab leak hypothesis and continue to oppose many forms of GOF research but it is just fabrication to say we have made any statement as a group about work in Wuhan.
What we called for was a moratorium on GOF research until proper risk-benefit calculations can be done. Just as this pandemic was starting, two of us were strongly critical of how @NIH and @HHSGov evaluate GOF proposals msphere.asm.org/content/5/1/e0…, calling for much more transparency.
Really important @nytimes article on how easy access to vaccines remains a key issue not just hesitancy nytimes.com/2021/05/12/us/…. I’d add two points less explicit in article
1. People say that seeing others get vax without incident reduces their hesitancy. If so then each vaccine administered to those where access is the main problem can have a multiplier effect in overcoming hesitancy in others.
2. If we think of getting vaccinated like any other choice then hesitancy and ease of obtaining are two sides of same coin. If hard to get, a little hesitancy will stop. If easy to get, only the very hesitant won’t.