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May 15th, Age 767: after three days of rest, Goku recovers from his heart disease (a week earlier than Trunks expected). The situation may be dire, but Goku knows the perfect place where Vegeta and Trunks can finally spend some quality father/son time together... #HistoryofEver
Speaking of quality time, Goku and Chi Chi get a nice moment together in the anime, sharing a kiss far too hot to actually show on screen. Or include in the canon, for that matter.
Alright, so…in the original manga, Goku and Chi Chi are never shown kissing. In DBZ ep.147 they share an offscreen kiss (they later made a figurine based on this). In the DBS anime and manga, Goku claims never to have kissed his wife. Draw your own conclusions.
Trunks initially estimates Goku’s recovery time as roughly 10 days, but in fact the narrator says a total of three days pass, at which point Goku wakes up. Accordingly, the Daizenshuu 7 timeline dates this to May 15th, three days after all the excitement on May 12th.
(Compare Goku’s early recovery to Vegeta’s surprisingly rapid recovery in the Namek arc, which allows him to catch Zarbon and Appule off-guard)
And what’s Vegeta been doing during these last three days? Standing around staring off into space. Sounds stupid, but apparently this is key to visualizing how to surpass Super Saiyan. Now if only he had a good place to train…
As Piccolo and co fruitlessly chase after Cell, the androids reach Goku’s house but find he’s not home. They decide to go see if he’s at Roshi’s instead. We next jump forward to nearly a day after Vegeta+Trunks entered the time chamber (gee whiz, I wonder how this’ll play out?)
According to Trunks, Vegeta surpasses Super Saiyan after only about two months in the room (so four hours on the outside). Eventually, Trunks obtains a power even greater than Vegeta’s…or so he thinks. In truth, his new transformation turns out to be more trouble than it’s worth
Trunks surmises that Vegeta avoided this powerful-but-slow Super Saiyan form because he recognized its drawbacks. The Super Saiyan guide included in the Trunks TV special animanga likewise notes that Vegeta is apparently capable of this transformation.
Meanwhile in movie land, DBZ Movie 7 (Android 13) theoretically happens around now. Daizenshuu 6 places it between Gero’s death and Cell becoming perfect, while noting that it can be called “the events of a parallel world” since Goku should be either sick or at the time chamber.
The manga’s android history chart tantalizing describes 13/14/15 as pretty close to complete (compared with Gero’s other failures), a possible nod to the movie. Much later, Toriyama avoids mentioning them at all in one of his Full Color manga Q&As. kanzenshuu.com/translations/d…
Toriyama provided the character designs for 13/14/15, but no plot details for the film (as was the norm pre-BoG). It seems that early on 14 was numbered as 15 and vice-versa, but this was later changed for God knows what reason. kanzenshuu.com/animation-prod…
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Aug 31, 2023
According to Bunshun Online, Dragon Room head honcho Akio Iyoku has stepped down from Shueisha and established his own company, Capsule Corporation Tokyo. Supposedly he wants Shueisha to keep DB’s manga publishing rights but for CC Tokyo to handle DB games/anime/etc.
As you might imagine, Shueisha is reluctant to part with DB to any extent, and negotiations are still ongoing. According to this article, anyway. Shueisha has apparently confirmed that Iyoku is stepping down, but not confirmed any of the particulars so far.
Bunshun Online reached out to Toriyama and asked if he would be working with Iyoku in future, but Toriyama said he couldn’t comment publicly, only through Shueisha. He also said the company name “Capsule Corporation Tokyo” was Iyoku’s idea, not his own.
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Jul 26, 2021
Dragon Quest: The Adventure of Dai ep.41: Pissed Myst’s great and the logistics of Dai’s sword are interesting, while the castle’s just there to be knocked down. But it knocks down well. 4/5 #DragonQuest #ep41
What was the name of this episode again?
Even under torture, Popp’s still Popp
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Jul 25, 2021
Rewatching the DBS panel, there’s a few things I want to note about the subtitles. They’re fine overall but there’s a few things I think are oversimplified or left out. Going through roughly in order of importance…
When discussing the artwork for New Character 1 and 2, in Japanese Hayashida says how it’s Toriyama’s original artwork, unlike the Piccolo/Pan/etc images that have been developed into full-fledged anime designs. The subtitles instead say it was made before movie production began ImageImageImage
Now, it might indeed be true that Toriyama would’ve made the initial artwork before movie production began, but that’s not really what Hayashida is talking about. He’s contrasting this image with the earlier ones shown of Piccolo and co, which weren’t Toriyama’s original artwork
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Jul 21, 2021
May 12th, Age 767 (Bad Future Edition): at 10 AM on an island 9km southwest of South City, 17 and 18 begin their assault. Vegeta and co are mowed down, leaving Gohan sole survivor. Even the dragon balls are no use, since Pilaf and co wasted them on a dumb wish. #HistoryofEver
May 12th, Age 767 (Better Future Edition): 19 and 20 appear on schedule, but Our Heroes are ready. Well, Goku gets a bit sick, but Vegeta covers for him. While 19 and 20 don’t last long, 17 and 18 make short work of the gang. And that’s just the beginning of their problems…
Yes, it’s another busy day. May 12th has the honor of being one of the few specific dates mentioned in the series, although the year 767 comes from the Daizenshuu 7 timeline. If there’s any number pun significance to this date, I haven’t been able to find it.
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Jul 20, 2021
May 7th, Age 767: after 11 years, the Tenkaichi Budokai is finally reopened, though Goku and co are apparently too busy android-training to notice. Instead, Mister Satan is champion, beating some jerk called “Spopovitch” in Round 1, then facing Jewel in the finals #HistoryofEver
The 24th TB also introduces a new “youth division” for entrants under 15, which is won by Satan’s daughter Videl. Satan becomes famous as world champ and moves to Orange Star City, which is renamed “Satan City” in his honor. Though they don’t bother renaming the high school.
When Mister Satan first appears in the lead-up to the Cell Games, he’s introduced simply as the world martial arts champion (using 格闘技/kakutōgi, a different word for “martial arts” than 武道/budō ala the Tenkaichi Budokai).
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Jul 19, 2021
Dragon Quest: The Adventure of Dai ep.40: tons of great action cuts, but it’s another episode that would’ve been better if it rushed through less stuff. 3.75/5 #DragonQuest #ep40
In the manga, Popp specifies that he’s only ever heard about Flazzard’s Finger Flare Bombs and never got the chance to see them in action before trying the technique out himself (I get the feeling this was in response to reader complaints)
When admiring Chiu’s guts, in the manga Crocodine refers to him as チビ/chibi/“shorty”, but the anime leaves this out. The anime likewise changed Leona calling Dai chibi in ep.1/2 (to the less insulting 小さい/small). Can you really not say chibi on TV anymore?
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