🧵DCT trial results are being trumpeted by Telegraph today.
I was one of those saying they were unethical, and knowing how concerns of CEV families were treated in some of these schools I maintain that view.
I think its important to note the size and context of the trial.
Here's a link to the trial details.
The timing for the trial March to June was shortly after schools went back, cases were very low, Delta was still rising to dominance with cases starting to rise at the end.
This was when we had low Alpha transmission
47 control schools, 59 intervention schools had cases where DCT was relevant.
Note contacts identified by standard DfE guidence which we know is leaky (whole year groups aren't usually sent home from 1 case, particularly at this time)
Incidence was higher than index cases, thought this is due to not all schools actively reported cases and not all community diagnosed infections were reported or recorded.
The Orient LFD picked up 53% of PCR cases
We did not clearly demonstrate the superiority of the intervention.
"Despite the lack of statistical evidence" it should reduce absence rates but may be more limited
The margin of error for reducing transmission in this study is wide
Interesting that participation was lower in more disadvantaged areas, you'd think families less likely to be able to afford isolation would be keener to avoid it, could the higher liklihood of having an at risk family member have influenced this?
At some stages the interventions were paused because PH were concerned about Delta.
Can we apply a study done in low Alpha transmission to high Delta transmission?
Study has several limitations.
Did not directly measure in school transmission estimates based on community transmission
They did not estimate the impact of DCT in high incidence settings (as we have had now and will have in September)
Unclear if it can be generalised to other settings
They estimated in their calculations that having DCT increases weekly LFD from 30%-60%
Calculations assumed 1 positive case = 50 isolations
Does this study justify the headlines?
Why are PHE ppl and various ppl who keep saying transmission hasn't been an issue and schools and long covid is so rare we don't need to worry about measures crowing so much about this study?
I mean, the expert version of
"In your face people who thought not asking everyone involved for consent was unethical"
Seems a bit over the top when you read the study.
Worth noting only those who tested to skip isolation had to give consent.
I was told it was unfeasible for a school to get permission from all students...
My issues with the ethics and first hand account of how someone in a trial school was treated⬇️
To be honest in a lot of ways its irrelevant because Gov aren't even going to bother with DCT in September, children no longer count as close contacts.
I suspect this will just end up being used to say schools are low risk (when infections are very low)
But it will be interesting how many ppl who hold up this study as solid enough evidence to support a policy will also say we don't have enough evidence/data on child vax or long covid to worry about a strategy that chooses mass infection over vaccination
🧵Infection or Vaccination,
which is better for children?
What do the experts say?
Depends on which experts you ask
It comes to balance of harms, how are these harms being weighted?
Vaccine harm, short and long term, initial risk of covid infection, long covid, harms that manifest much later, risk of transmission, risk of mutation, length of immunity, degree of immunity against reinfection and future variants.
Are all being costed
US, Israel and others have already vaccinated millions of 11-17, other countries have yet to approve vaccination, and hundreds of millions of children live in countries which don't have enough vaccine supply that they won't be in a position to make this decision for some time
Had to make notes of what I just heard on @lbc from Maajid Nawaz
It's a selection of dangerous skeptic nonsense.
He's now saying we need all the children to get infected as we cannot counter the seasonality of covid so lets get it over to done with before September.
"Long covid is rare, of the minority who catch covid only 10% get Long covid, a million people might have Long covid but there are 70 people in the country, so its a minority of a minority"
Couple mins ago he explained we should expect everyone to catch it...
Took a while but they finally got back to mass infection and acceptable deaths as official strategy, and most media are busy telling this is the only sensible course to take
I'm not calling iSAGE and NEU big P political, but they are small p political in that covid and education policy are political decisions made by politicians.
They have tried to persuade a change of policy through public engagement, providing evidence based alternative policies
Which is a different approach to the lobbyists much of the media has been platforming, the public facing coms is secondary to meetings with ministers, MPs and certain journalists behind closed doors
@HelenEBedford arguing hard against child vax, why do so many professionals and experts in the media say we need to wait until its approved, the MHRA have approved it, have JVCI replaced the regulator?
Do these experts no longer trust MHRA? Ah she's just answered.. @StephenNolan
She says the MHRA approving a product doesn't mean its safe, makes out that children are at higher risk from the vaccine, we can hit HI without child vax, and says risks to children of covid are nearly zero
Flinn of the JCVI was on yesterday. Wouldnt confirm the Telegraph story but then went on about balance of risks, the main argument im getting from the JCVI members is that their calculation of covid risk including long covid are incredibly low
🧵HART was set up with support of ppl linked to GBD, they also have links to the astroturf disinformation group UsForThem
While HART is not openly vax, it is a collection of anti vaxers, their account only posts negative stories about vaccines.
2/ While claiming to be an independent non political group they have a lot of link to RW politics, Conservative party, Brexit Party etc, writing for various Conservative blogs, Spectator etc
Last autumn Spectator kept platforming GBD claims we had HI