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14 Aug, 16 tweets, 4 min read
1) Some thoughts on @coinbase's 2021Q2 financials:

investor.coinbase.com/home/default.a…
2) First, let's not bury the lede.

Coinbase brought in $2B of revenue in 2021Q2.

That's a lot.
3) I almost wanted to end the thread there, because I really do think that's the headline result!

But there are a lot of other interesting tidbits.
4) First of all, where does that revenue come from?

Most analyses I've read of this get it wrong.

They'll talk breathlessly about the growth in subscription revenue (82%!) and point to custody, staking, etc.

But that's not the right way to think about it:
5) Their "transaction revenue" (trading fees etc.) was $1.9B.

Their "subscription revenue" (custody, staking, etc.) was $0.1B.

Their subscriptions grew quickly! But that's still just 5% of revenue.

95% is trading fees.
6) To be fair, I've been guilty of this too. I'll talk about growth metrics in FTX's margin borrow/lending book, but the truth is that, for FTX--like Coinbase, and like most crypto exchanges--most of the revenue comes from trading fees.
7) Another interesting thing to note here: retail vs institutional.

In Q2, Coinbase made $1.8B on retail fees, and $0.1B on institutional fees.

So 90% of their revenue is from retail trading fees, 5% instos, and 5% custody/staking.

8) Again, reports will talk a lot about the institutional clients Coinbase is winning, and that really is important to the future of their business!

But I think they often miss the numbers here.

When it comes to retail, Coinbase blows everyone else out of the water.
9) In fact! In 2021Q2, Coinbase made $100m revenue on institutional trading fees.

FTX made... $100m.

I'm actually not sure which made more on institutional trading fees; they're within a few % of each other.

But on retail, Coinbase is massively bigger than FTX.
10) How about expenses?

Coinbase's are... impressive.
11) Coinbase had $1.3B of expenses in 2021Q2 alone. Removing one-time costs (e.g. listing), its revenue was $2B and its EBITDA was $1B.

So they had about $1B of expenses in 2021Q2, for a run rate of $4B/year.
12) This is roughly evenly distributed between
--"transaction expenses" (gas?)
--Tech
--Marketing
--Payroll

They spent roughly $250m on each.

They had ~2k employees, so that implies ~$400k/year/employee, which makes sense given the workforce.
13) For context, FTX's expenses in 2021Q2 were around $50m (excluding buy/burn).

The big differences were.... I guess everywhere?

I guess 5% of the expenses aren't surprising given we also have 5% of the employee headcount.
14) One of the biggest questions I've been thinking about recently:

Big companies tend to have big teams.

Is that necessary? Is that correct?

What happens if you try to build a big company with a medium sized team?

Is it efficient and nimble, or is it just overloaded?
15) Note that 2021Q2 was probably an unusually good quarter for Coinbase! Volumes and volatility were high.

I would expect Q3 to be lower.
16) Finally, you wonder why you hear so much about crypto exchanges versus other exchanges?



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15 Aug
2) Huobi burned 2.3m HT ~ $22.6m for the month of July.

What does that mean?
3) Well, Huobi claims to burn 20% of its revenue.

(This is a little complicated -- they buy/burn 15%, and then they buy/burn 5% from something that looks kinda like the team allocation: huobi.com/support/en-us/…)

So that means they're claiming about $110m revenue in July 2021.
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1) Live now: senate.gov/legislative/fl…

talking about the ultimate compromise amendment. A live thread!

context:
2) @SenToomey pitching the amendment, doing a pretty good job.
3) ok I'm sure this is a complete coincidence but this speech shares a bit of language with my threads on the bill.

AGAIN THIS IS A COINCIDENCE AND I'M ONLY SAYING THIS BECUASE A MAN CAN DREAM, RIGHT???
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1) We've been working, in the background, on finding more systems we can add to our KYC process.

As we mature as a company, we've been building out our checks, finding and incorporating more signals.
2) A month ago, we added a check for you phone number's jurisdiction.

We now have another integration which will help us add more nuance to the process.
3) We check users' phone numbers against their submitted names in KYC1, in order to further verify them.

When this doesn't work or there isn't data, we'll require KYC2 to access some features of the site, including futures.
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9 Aug
1) And more updates on the crypto tax bill/amendments;
2) Last we checked, there were a number of competing amendments for the crypto tax section of the senate infrastructure bill.

Where are we now?
3) Well...

In some sense, nothing has happened.

There have been any votes on the amendments, or new ones proposed.

Instead, there have been procedural fights on the bill.
Read 19 tweets
7 Aug
1) Even more updates on the crypto amendments in the Senate infrastructure bill!

Context:

2) The good news: after a large public outcry, the Warner/Portman amendment has modified its weirdest piece.

First, it removed the Proof of Work reference, instead excepting _all_ validation. Great!

It was then _further_ revised, to exclude both PoW and PoS, but not others.
3) Which is odd. What if something has multiple steps to its consensus mechanism, one of which is PoS?

I guess they're worried about things which are only dubiously validating?

Either way, it brings it closer to being a bit of a mess, and choosing favorites.
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6 Aug
1) More last minute updates on the crypto tax bill!

For context:
2) Last we checked in, @RonWyden / @SenLummis / @SenToomey had proposed an amendment removing blockchain/DeFi infrastructure.

This was great!

It is totally reasonable to have 1099 reporting reqs for e.g. @ftx_us / @CoinbasePro.

But nodes, developers, wallets, etc. can't.
3) And to be clear, it's not just that they *don't want to* report people's taxes.

They *can't* do it, because they don't actually have any private information.

All they're doing is providing tooling and/or propagating the blockchain.

They don't know who is using DEXes!
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