I know people are done tweeting about #StopSpectrum10K for today but like,

seriously I'm just so stuck on how SBC thought this was a good idea? Like I don't know who's original idea it was but he's kind of the lead (based on the team description)..
Why is the autism genome such a goldmine to geneticists?

Like yes, -intellectually- it's an interesting problem.

In actual practice, it's dystopian and absurdly dangerous in our current society.

THE FIRST PART DOES NOT TRUMP THE SECOND PART.

#Spectrum10K
#ActuallyAutistic
I read a few tweets with the Spectrum10K hashtag and like..

I mean truly it felt like people were commentating on some alien species they wanted to dissect.

It's honestly so creepy to read about how "interesting" autistic genes are and "what a complicated problem!" it is.
I really don't see a lot of humanity in how non-autistic people, especially genetic autism researchers, talk about autistic people.

I can see the intellectual intrigue while still valuing human beings as people.

I don't think this has occurred within autism research yet..
This might sound a bit self-centered,

but it hurts to know that even if I had a PhD right now in neuroscience, my words wouldn't matter to those non-autistic people literally doing research on a group I'm a part of.

Because I'm autistic.
We are worth less to them.
We "don't know what we're talking about."
We're "anti-science."
We're "paranoid."
We're "too high-functioning."
We're not an "expert" like the allistics.

These are all ways to shut us up and discredit our experiences and voices as autistic people.
One of the actual "ambassadors" of the study was insulting autistic people today.

The "ambassador" to a research study that is supposed to have the end goal of increasing quality of life in autistic people.

The researchers didn't shut the ambassador down. No one apologized.
We will always be reduced to as small of an impact as we can.

We use twitter? We're just trolls!
We complain about something? We're just paranoid!
We have issues with something? We don't know anything about "low-functioning" autistics so how dare we have an opinion!
There will always be a scenario where a non-autistic person can discredit an autistic person's experience.

It is everywhere.
It is in the research design.
It is in how researchers interact with us (they don't, at all).
It is in how desperate autistic people are to be heard.
Non-autistic people who have no understanding of the history of disability, the historical and current abuses that esp. marginalized autistic people face, and with no context,

have continued to gaslight us instead of listening & taking action with us as equal partners in change.
Autistic people pay non-autistic people's livelihoods -

Autism researchers
ABA therapists
Staff that electrically shock disabled people at JRC (still happening this second)
Autism charities
Any type of "autism intervention" or therapy

Yet we cannot reside over any of it. Why?
I want to scream about this situation honestly,

but there's actually nothing more to say.

An autistic person even met with them and said their concerns (why they weren't going to participate) last year, and the researchers completely ignored their comments!!
We've had this conversation in circles.

We've explained why this could be potentially very harmful to autistic people.

We have reached out to the people involved.

We have explained that most of us don't want a cure (esp. not prenatal screening).

Do our lives just not matter?
Is it more important to look like you're helping autistic people,

than it is to actually help autistic people?

Even if that help means stopping what you're doing?

Honestly I kind of wonder sometimes if these people have hearts. It's so disappointing and ruthless tbh.
I actively -want- to be able to trust researchers, especially people researching autism!
That would be great!

No autistic person WANTS to be arguing about this, but we literally have to because future autistic people in the world matter,

and current autistic people do too.
Most autistic people aren't sitting here trying to find a fight with a research!
We just want non-autistic people to listen to us and actually consider what we are saying and respond to us like humans with value & lived experience!

We absolutely DESERVE answers & transparency!!
We are not bad or awful for wanting that.

We are the subjects.

They should be wanting to get our trust and respect, instead of using vague half-baked statements to avoid a real answer or not having an answer in the first place.

They should care about us.
[I'm calling it right now that someone is going to come on this thread and attack me for using the word "ruthless" - but that's sure how I feel about ambassadors insulting autistic people for having concerns about a DNA database of autistic people's DNA.]

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13 Sep
I would like to find the genes for neurotypicalism so they can get better supports early in life.

Finding out this information will help neurotypical well-being and quality of life, and help with co-occurring conditions.

Please ask your neurotypical children to spit in a tube.
We have 3 neurotypical ambassadors, 4 neurotypical people on our annual advisory panel, and we're willing to consult with neurotypical people and their families after starting to recruit.

We can't disclose researcher's diagnoses so we can't answer about the researchers.
We are not looking for a cure for neurotypicalism but this research may in the future lead to a genetic test for neurotypicalism.

We are anti-eugenics.
Read 5 tweets
13 Sep
Just to clarify regarding the #Spectrum10K study..

Collecting genetic data of a very specific subset of autistic people who have official diagnoses will always be biased.

Using questionnaires made by NTs to describe autistic "behavior" will always be biased.
1/10
Something they note in their preprint is that SPARK didn't seem to have a lot of questionnaires. Most of them are parent-report.

Even if they have more questionnaires in the UK study, they will likely combine this with SPARK.

So any other questionnaires are going to be moot. 2/
I'm not sure how many samples they would need to correlate questionnaires to polygenic scores, but I bet it's more than 10,000.

I'm also assuming they'll use family without diagnosis as a control - which is not a true control. Don't remember if they do this in the preprint. 3/
Read 11 tweets
12 Sep
Every day that I have an outing,

and my venous malformation doesn't hurt me,
and doesn't hurt me the next day,

I thank my weird-looking, very ugly toe shoes. 💜

Took me a surgery that didn't work, and 3 years of going through footwear, but I finally found it.
Physically abled people will always have something to complain about.

They'd tell me I need to get foot surgery (part of the reason I tried it - 3 week recovery).

They'd joke that I should "just amputate it" (so overdone and absurd).

Now they tell me my shoes look ugly.
I don't usually say this,

but I will say fuck off to anyone who complains that my shoes look ugly and I need different ones or they're not appropriate for the occasion.

People not in pain simply have no idea.

I'd rather not be in pain everytime I take one step,
thank you.
Read 6 tweets
11 Sep
So,

I am going to talk about the #Spectrum10K study that is an online pre-print (assuming will be published soon)

that literally looks at the genes of autistic people.

And it's just as bad as a lot of other autism research.

Let me explain -
1/21
First of all, it's important to explain that they are correlating genetic scores (polygenic scores, which I'll get to later)

with checklists and questionnaires.

Please read this thread I wrote to understand why this is bad:


2/21
Now you may be wondering,

What are the questionnaires they are correlating these polygenic scores (the genetic scores) to?

Here's a list I found from the caption of Figure 3 of the paper.

NVIQ = non-verbal IQ,
VIQ = Verbal IQ,

3/21
Read 38 tweets
11 Sep
[near meltdown tweeet, all caps]

CAN ANY SINGLE NON-AUTISTIC PERSON READ THIS PAPER AND GIVE A GODDAMN SUMMARY OF IT SO THAT AUTISTIC PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND THIS AND I DON'T HAVE TO DO EXTRA RESEARCH + BE ANXIOUS ABOUT MY PHD WORK ON THE WEEKEND?

medrxiv.org/content/10.110…
This research that has ALREADY BEEN PUBLISHED BY SPECTRUM10K

is crucial to pointing out the harms of this study,

and I don't have the fucking spoons to sift through the pathologizing.

I've seen 3-4 good ally responses to my blog post today.

BUT ONLY 3 OR 4. THAT'S IT.
In case you want a quick update about how autistic "advocates" are doing right now -

WE ARE NOT OKAY. NONE OF US ARE OKAY.

This is time-limiting because I wanted to talk about it at the panel tomorrow but I'm out of spoons to read through every single sentence. I can't.
Read 5 tweets
11 Sep
Spectrum 10K has already published a study about autism genes, trying to subtype autism, using multiple international genetic databases,

And no one's talking about it.
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