One thing I want to try and achieve is to help improve the genealogy community and industry as a whole. And a major thing I want to improve on is FindaGrave. You might think "here he goes on his rant again" but hear me out... [1/15]
While FindaGrave has proved to be an invaluable tool for family historians and genealogists all around the world seeing headstones of ancestors or relations that are very far away. (For example me being in Ireland and having relatives buried in New York)... [2/15]
It has also proved to be a place that brings uncalled distress and bitterness. The culprit? Impatience and a competition to increase people's stats. If you had been previously unaware of this @Ancestry, I invite you to read this thread... [3/15]
...and it's replies. A number of people have had an unpleasant encounter with memorial creators who would sometimes create memorials *the day the person died*. And again if you're thinking that it's only happened to a few people, I invite you to read the comments on... [4/15]
...these two FB posts. One by myself [facebook.com/10129623869112…] and another by @AmyJohnsonCrow [facebook.com/10129623869112…] - As you'll see there is a sizeable amount of people that have had the same experience with *some* (this is not in complaint of all, there are some... [5/15]
...who are absolutely amazing at the work they've done) but those who do amazing work are being overshadowed by the negative reputation of these individuals with a lack of respect for grieving families of the recently and needless to say there needs to be some measures... [6/15]
...put in place for people who have passed away during this pandemic? My #WaitDontMake message will only ever go so far or do so much, the buck stops with you. And if you're now thinking "Well, this problem will die out." Two questions. 1 - How do you know? And... [7/15]
...2 - what's in place to stop the next generation from doing this? Essentially, if you're allowing this to continue, this is not going to magically disappear. Another reason why this cause is close to me is because two close friends of mine have had relatives put... [8/15]
...on FindaGrave and were upset by it as in one case, the complete obituary was posted onto the memorial. In the other case, obituary (with photo of deceased) was posted for one. Firstly, I believe posting obituaries from other websites onto yours is against your terms? [9/15]
Secondly, the common thing between all of these - 2 were uploaded in a matter of *days*. The other was posted in about a week. And to add an even BIGGER insult to injury, one of my friends asked for ownership of their relative's memorial and was refused ownership. [10/15]
My other friend to my knowledge has not gone about requesting ownership yet. While this has not happened to me, seeing my friends frustration with this has pushed me to try and do what it takes to try and help change this to stop all the distress. [11/15]
So what am I requesting of you, @Ancestry/@FindaGrave? I asking that you please introduce a waiting period of anything between 30 days to 6 months on creation of new memorials. I'd appreciate a response from you be it a public one or a private response if you'd prefer. [12/15]
...I'm more than happy to jump on a Zoom or something to discuss this further. The fact that this has been asked for since at least 2016 and you have not acted on feedback that the community has been calling out for, doesn't please me at all. I know you strive to [13/15]
...improve Ancestry in any way you can so please take all of this thread and comments, blog posts and any other material that I've linked into consideration. [14/15]
To clarify the largely asked questions (read full thread) "How will FG know if the person is related?" - I got this from Peter Drinkwater at @FindaGrave who I hadn't mentioned in my original post. Apologies for confusion - this is what I received... [1/]
"On the question of how to make sure someone is related, it’s a good question and one of the trickier parts of the change. We’ve thought about and have plans for it, but will need to watch it carefully. Our plans focus on limiting the number of relationships someone can... [2/]
...claim, so while there will surely be some cases of people claiming to be a relative when they are not, it shouldn’t be an avenue for significant abuse or for people to accumulate large numbers of memorials to manage which we hope will be a disincentive to abuse. We’ll.. [3/6]
Following my thread about FG I began contacting people to try and speak to someone to FG about a waiting period and last night I spoke to @FindaGrave and this is what's coming.
*NOTE* In this thread is only what I've been told in an email, it may change. 1/
So first things first:
"When a Find a Grave member creates a memorial for a person who has died recently, we'll ask if they are related. If they are, they can create a memorial that will look and act just like other Find a Grave memorials on the site... 2/
If the person who creates the memorial is not related, for the first three months we'll show the memorial in a limited form (to discourage duplication) and family members will be able to assume management of the memorial, if they would like to, without requesting it from the... 3
Okay, this is going to be the start of a humongous thread! Below are the links to lists of genealogists that are able to do genealogy research (and other bits!) in different countries. Think of it as a directory of genealogists! Please feel free to refer people to this list!
If you're looking to research your Irish heritage (the only list I'm in!) find Irish genealogists below: twitter.com/i/lists/129210…