My wife Allison and I celebrated our 25th wedding anniversary this week. We were married at 24 yrs old and had our first child at 25, so I've been married with kids for half my life. Here are some reflections on being a husband and father while building my career.
I started business school when our oldest son was 6 months old. All of my classmates were partying while I was changing diapers. We couldn't afford a babysitter, but my schedule did allow me to be home a lot. I also set my classes to start at 11am so I could help with night duty.
One of the reasons I dropped out of b-school after one year was because I had a kid - Allison and I were both itching to get on with our lives. Dropping out to join Amazon full-time was one of the best decisions of my career, and I wouldn't have done it without her encouragement.
I joined Amazon at 26 yrs old. Many of my colleagues were also in their mid/late 20s, but I was one of the few with kids. I always felt this made me more efficient. Others would stay late to finish their work, I was super focused during the day so I could leave the office by 6pm.
I took one week of vacation from Amazon when each of my next 2 children came along. We didn't have a paternity policy so I missed out compared to new dads at FB and other Silicon Valley companies. Fortunately Allison wanted to be home with our kids, and she was an incredible mom.
I once overheard Bezos say he preferred to integrate work and family rather than set aside dedicated time and space for each. That's always been my approach too. I was often distracted around the house, but I spent more time at home as a result. We each have to find our own way.
We had 3 kids under the age of 10 when I joined Facebook at 33 yrs old. The company had 130 employees, avg age early 20s. There was a group called "FB employees over the age of 30," I was like ~15th member of that group. Zuck was nearly closer in age to my oldest son than to me!
I kept my promise to Allison to be home for dinner most nights, but then I would go back into the office after putting the kids to sleep just as Zuck and other product leaders were hitting their stride. That was a hard time in our marriage but we did our best to keep it together.
We moved to Hawaii 4 years ago because our kids wanted to get out of Silicon Valley. They saw friends and classmates struggling with anxiety (including our family) and pushed for a change. Allison never flinched, she picked up and moved with the kids while I commuted for a year.
After flying across the ocean a lot and missing my family, I finally left FB. It was hard for me to leave because I helped build the company. Our team felt like family to me. Also my identity/ego was tied into my role as Facebook VP. But I ultimately chose my family over my job.
After I announced I was leaving FB, my friends at Coatue asked me to help them build their new venture business. They didn't care where I lived (they were ahead of their time!). I left FB on a Friday and started at Coatue the following Monday, with my ego (and family) intact.
My kids are now approaching the age when Allison and I started a family, and we find ourselves encouraging them to wait until they are older to get married. I know it's hypocritical, but marriage is hard and in many ways we got lucky. Then again, who knows?

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