#NRx actually gets this right. Hobbes on the Left, Filmer on the Right. Both are 'Passive Obedience' advocates and so is NRx.
You can fall into a dialectical trap if you like, and fight Marxism in the streets by being a TOOL OF MARXISM.
May your chains rest lightly upon you.
OR, you can start to think and plan, rationally, like Christians.
First -- you need to make the justification of your revolt, or your dissent, or whatever Leftist/Libertarian terms you've been trained like an NPC dog to think in -- and make it refer to the Law of God, or Nature and Reason at the *very* least.
Alternatively you can pick...
successful, effective models, such as:
- Kenosha Kyle
- the Charlottesville March
- the Jan 6th HVE Insurrection LOL
etc etc.
What is the alternative (you aren't going to like this)
The Tory way:
- Passive Obedience (obey the Magistrate)
- carefully articulate why your obedience isn't the ACTIVE OBEDIENCE that the Magistrate is USUALLY entitled to
- accept the risk of defeat and possibly martyrdom
Nothing short of this will give you strength (or Angels)
@GigiSims10 I think it partly takes a while for things to work their course. The Soviet Union took two full generations and maybe more. *If* it did (Golitsyn thesis is a thing)
and I don't think we can be spared our Solzhenitsyn 'Live by Truth' moments.
@GigiSims10 'Embrace the Horror' as linuxhippie said really does mean to face the Truth we are embracing a horror -- mostly where we are coming from, since the actual Truth is not so bad in comparison to the Sleep of Reason.
@GigiSims10 But the first step towards *real* (authentic, truthful) action is a sober assessment of 'where we are at'.
Partly we don't know: I can't tell you whether the Financial Crisis of 2007 ended with the fatal crisis of 2021/22, or if we will *ever* see a technological world like...
btw, I've always thought that the iconic 'plastics' was a deliberate leak of nuclear secrets (a reference to fogbank). Hollywood inside joke. Prove me wrong.
It's ironic that George Bush had to initiate a crash programme to remember how to *make* the fogbank material, just to keep old 70s weapons designs in repair.
I think it is pretty clear that the government is illegitimate (though I'd argue it complies with the altered Constitution of the US -- but that was already tyrannical as SCOTUS clearly shows in Roe v Wade if nowhere else) -- abortion is not the Salus of any Populi...
... but rather a 'Religon of Death' as Socialism has sometimes been called.
And changing the US Constitution from FDR Socialism to some weird alliance of the CCP and an Islamic State (a Heresy, mind you, and against the Salvation of the People,
Specifically, which of these are allowed morally and politically, effectively:
- non-collaboration and non-resistance
- non-collaboration with resistance
- 'protesting' individually or verbally
- mass line of protesting
- armed resistance ('rebellion')
Non-collaboration with evil that doesn't involve resistance to the magistrate -- is your clear duty
Non-collaboration *with* resistance violates even the duty owed a usurper and tyrant *HOWEVER* it is only seeming resistance if you can show the tyrant is violating the Law of God
... and in many cases this case can probably be made.
'protesting' individually or verbally - this is pure vanity. Non-collaboration, keeping a low profile, obeying the Law of God, yes
Grandstanding and 'street dialectic' with Marxist is never correct or ethical.
4. for a legitimate or non-legitimate government, what if any limit is their over its power to interfere with domestic affairs politically or economically?
All theories more or less agree here, even if they have different reasoning.
Even if you live in the godless, atheist, Christ-hating Soviet Union, you should still obey traffic laws.
This is an aspect of God's Economy (provision for the End of Man in the face of evil)
The Unworthy Steward is still a steward, and accountable to his Master nonetheless.
His life will be required at his hands for the evil he does.
Will Biden, Fauci, and Gates burn in Hell? I'll leave that to your imagination.
3. is the present government of the states or FedGov legitimate? Is it tyrannising in any way?
Thread 3 of 6. This one is pretty contentious. The American People and the Government of the United States have not been the same since 1865. Lincoln was a Tyrant and his...
... successors too.
Those just joining this opinion, i'm not here to fight about the past. Welcome. We're all Confederates now.
Even if you accept that half or all of America has an Occupied Government (YOG, ZOG, or DOG or BOG whatever) Demoncrat or Bidet for the obscure Xs
You still have to ask ... what would Robert E Lee do?
Now Lee was an Episcopalian in an era when that meant next thing to being a Tory, and the rest of the South (Calhoun, Stephens and pals) were Presbies -- and both Churches held similar expositions of the Civil Magistrate.