Thread by @Ayjchan

"Shi has reported that her lab tested blood from the miners and did not find evidence of coronaviruses or antibodies to them."

But a 2016 doctoral thesis from the Chinese CDC director's lab said the WIV found SARSrCoV IgG in all of the sick miners tested.
science.org/content/articl…

At least we finally have confirmation that Dr Linfa Wang did know about the cases and "helped with these analyses" - the doctoral thesis did thank Dr Wang for his help.

Also, I know that a lot of natural origin proponents think that location alone is the circumstantial evidence for lab origin. Although location is very important, it's not the most eyebrow raising piece of information.

https://twitter.com/Ayjchan/status/1425799334797402119

We are seeing more of these assertions that the entire WIV only ever isolated 3 viruses (all prior to 2017 btw) and that all of their work has been published.

Please tell us what you were doing with chimeric MERSrCoVs. Apparently the NIH knows some of it.

https://twitter.com/Ayjchan/status/1431713348819767297

Lots of stuff in here already addressed previously: the multi-market hypothesis, the FCS, RaTG13.

Please check out my medium article on this.
ayjchan.medium.com/a-response-to-…

I don't understand why scientists continue to be so surprised when virus genetic material and even live viruses are found on surfaces where sick people have been. Then why all the hygiene theater? (Although #COVIDisAirborne

Nature even covered this.
Where there are superspreader events, there will be virus material detected in the environment.

“17 days after the Diamond Princess cruise ship was vacated, scientists found viral RNA on surfaces in cabins”
nature.com/articles/d4158…

I'm willing to bet that there wasn't a live animal market on the Diamond Princess cruise ship that was hit by covid in early 2020.

Yet, its environment was unsurprisingly contaminated by all the sick people there due to the outbreak onboard the ship.

cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/6…

One good thing about the article is that it does not say anything about a scientific consensus or "most scientists".

I think that's one step in a positive direction. Thanks @sciencecohen

@sciencecohen Some argue that if only we were nicer to China, they would've let us go in to investigate.

The WHO joint study allowed China to curate the terms, the people going in, what they would do there and what would be published in the final report... result: #PopsicleOrigins

@sciencecohen What they're saying is that we should have kept pretending a lab origin isn't plausible (pre-May 2021) just in case China might some day allow a natural origins investigation.

I can't help but feel that they might not have been keeping up with global news in the past few years.

@sciencecohen Let's all be practical. An investigation has to be launched without China. We have to put as many of the pieces outside of China together to form as clear of a picture as possible.

After that, you might have enough leverage or at least a more confident guess of what happened.