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29 Sep, 5 tweets, 2 min read
I lightly disagreed with the "threaten to Kill the BIF" approach yesterday, but I found this opposing view by @joshtpm very compelling.
What I found compelling was the idea that passing the BIF w/out Human Infrastructure would be to the long term detriment of the party. I was also somewhat persuaded by the idea that threatening to kill the BIF was actually leverage against Sinema. Businesses want it passed.
Sinema does not strike me as a deeply principled person & it's hard to have leverage against a person w/out principles (cf. negotiating w/ the GOP). *But* if she is beholden to businesses on BIF, threatening to kill it could be real leverage.
A differing opinion from someone else I respect:

Now people are convincing me back in the other direction: "Don't hold BIF hostage." Overall, it's a very frustrating situation &, for my part, I'm clearly not settled on the right tactics. Appreciate the convo. I will probably change my mind several more times today.

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Mangy Jay Profile picture
29 Sep
This is a point that has too often been missed about Human Infrastructure. The bill is an ingenious pre-midterm piece of legislation because it is *only* additive. People will see new benefits, but no disruption to their personal lives. Fundamentally different than the ACA.
Now, I am not saying we shouldn't have passed the ACA. But the ACA, like much expansive progressive policy, was politically risky b/c, though it was a longterm good, it produced short-term disruption for many Americans, making it a prime target for backlash.
An overall power asymmetry exists between conservatives & progressives b/c conservative policy introduces little short term pain & may even include small benefits (tax cuts). The pain manifests later on (entightlement cuts). This produces 1. less backlash & 2. less accountability
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28 Sep
I share Sanders' frustration, but I'm not convinced that holding up the bipartisan bill is the best strategy to getting reconciliation thru. This seems to rely on the assumption that Manchin & Sinema are so devoted to the bipartisan bill that they'll be persuaded by a logjam.
I'm in ideological agreement w/ progressives here, I'm just wondering about the tactics. I guess I would think doing the bipartisan bill first would build better will to do the reconciliation bill. I'm happy to listen to arguments about the tactical maneuvers, though.
I honestly don't see the dynamic wherein the progressive caucus effectively pressures Manchin & Sinema to go for reconciliation by holding up the bipartisan bill. That seems like it's more likely to backfire, given the level of posturing by the moderates. But maybe I'm wrong.
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27 Sep
I'm reaching new levels of frustration with our media. I do not believe people have been properly informed by the press about the Human Infrastructure package. This has real consequences for civic engagement in our country.
I'm not saying the media has to cheerlead. But I am asking whether Americans would have the same view of Biden if they knew what he was proposing. If they would be more engaged with the passage of the bill. If Dems risk losing in the midterms b/c the objective stakes are unstated
Maybe voters would learn about the bill and still feel unsatisfied! That would be disappointing to me as a Democrat but, at least in that case, people would be making informed decisions about legislative agendas. Not just feeling "meh" based on fogs & shadows.
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26 Sep
THE INVISIBLE HAND OF THE MARKET until consumer preferences increasingly turn towards social justice-oriented themes and then we've got to shut the whole thing down
I love the GOP's assumption that corporations are choosing "woke" marketing & making "woke" products b/c CEOs want to push an agenda. In reality, younger consumers are more diverse & progressive. It is *much* more profitable to cater to their preferences

That's the market, baby
I know Republicans must mourn the days when the majority of U.S. consumers had racist preferences so Black people were virtually invisible from film, advertising, etc

But, uh oh!, younger Americans are barely majority white. So what does the market do?

Adapt to the audience
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25 Sep
The thing about white people mimicking AAVE is that Black people have asked them not to do it & that should be the end of the discussion. I could give a long description of the harms of appropriation but I feel like, "Black people have said please don't do this" should be enough
And spare me comments about "it's just language change." If my only contact with British people was watching British TV & then I turned around & was like, "ALLO MATE. Was at the pub and this bloody wanker took the piss right out of me!" it would not be a case of "language change"
Yes there are dialects of English spoken by non-Black people that have come into contact w/ AAVE & naturally incorporated some features. That's different than white people imitating the dialect & being so disfluent it sounds like they've never actually been around AAVE speakers
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24 Sep
I've seen some Dems spreading rumors about the many Haitian refugees from the Southern border. There is no conspiracy. These refugees were in South/Central America after the 2010 earthquake. 2021 policy that Haitians that were already here could stay longer was misinterpreted
Haiti is a country that has been thru hell & back thousands of times over centuries. Even just within the past 10 years: earthquakes, political turmoil, extreme weather. Still being punished for being a state founded by freed slaves. That's why there are a lot of Haitian refugees
2010 earthquake sent many fleeing to Central/South America, but that doesn't mean that those countries were welcoming or offered great quality of life. These same refugees heard of the 2021 status extension for migrants already in the US & are now risking their lives to get here
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