Last volley from #GoogleHearing today & it was important.
EU judges wanted to know: if we side with Google on one slice of their case does it destroy the whole @EU_Commission#antitrust decision?
Essentially, court is exploring the prospects of a partial @Google win /thread
This was all couched as "hypothetical" by judge Frimodt Nielsen (& I've seen other hearings where this happens) but it shows court is working out consequences of accepting at least parts of @Google appeal.
Why is this a tricky legal?
Well, funny you asked. Let me tell you. /1
Imagine the EC decision is a Greek temple with four pillars.
@EU_Commission says each of the four pillars is an infringement of EU law & the temple overall is a big single overarching infringement. So, there are two strands to its case: the 4 pillars & the temple itself. /2
Google says: if you pull out one of the pillars (i.e. if Google wins on one of its pleas) then the Temple falls. So, the whole case crashes down. Google wins. Champagne for everyone in Moutainview. Hurray!
Judge says: not necessarily. /3
Judge postulated: If I decide one pillar is not an infringement, that's just a legal assessment of the pillar. It may not be infringing, but it's still there. And so the Temple remains standing. /4
Google says: no way, guv. EC built this as a 4-pillar Temple and it can't suddenly redesign it as a 3-pillar Temple. That's not on. You can't change the case like that. It's 4 or nothing.
EC says: talk to the hand cause the face 'aint listening. /5
EC says: the Temple remains standing no matter what. Remember, dear Googlers, we've got two strands to our case: the 4 pillars as well as the Temple. This is The Temple of @Vestager. It's not rock hard. It's not falling down.
So, there are two options for the court./6
1) If the court sides with Google on one of the pillars, the Temple crumbles and it's Game Over for @EU_Commission decision;
2) Or the court sides with part of Google's case; the decision/Temple remains standing, but the overall fine is reduced.
/7
N.B In court, the analogy used by Google was a chair with four legs.
But given I have a 3-legged stool at home that works fine (I like to milk goats in my spare time), I unilaterally decided the Temple analogy was better. I can do that. This is my Twitter feed. Sue me. /ends
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Google went hard on benefits Android has created, creating platform that spurred competition. It said it has right to promote Android & not rest on its laurels.
EC said: G “gave itself the laurel wreath before race had started”/1
Google said EC had failed to prove preinstallation was anticompetitive because other apps/services could be downloaded easily & accessed through browsers.
EC said G execs knew full well their success rested in “not making its services optional.” /2
Consumers argue that there is a “status quo bias” where users stick with the stuff that comes on the phone.
Google argued previously that there was nothing on behavioural economics in the @EU_Commission#antitrust decision & doubting their value here /3
This will be a set-piece affair & judge already indicated last night he’s done with questioning. So, it’ll be more like:
Lawyers use this session to a) hit their strongest arguments again, b) address some lingering doubts by the judges to try to change their minds, c) make sweeping statements about the importance of X or Y for the future of the law/business. /2
Danish blue cheese came up repeatedly over 4 days as an analogy for market share, due to the Danish judge leading the questions. Expect some tortured references to that. /3
Google took on the "staggering" antitrust fine in its pleas today, saying it should have been less (or zero) given it couldn't have known that EC would hit an open platform like this.
EC said: the case was about tying software to operating systems. You knew about that already/2
In fact, @sundarpichai had blogged about @Microsoft doing that with its browsers. So, come on guys, it wasn't out of the blue for you.
Break for lunch in #GoogleHearing at ECJ. Here's what happened this morning:
- Google argued that EC introduced new elements into its investigation (an AEC test) & because it did this in a letter instead of a charge-sheet, Google couldn't have a private hearing on it /1
- if G had had a hearing, it could have better defended itself against accusations of dodgy revenue-sharing agreements w/ phonemakers
- so, the procedural failure should mean court annuls this part of decision
EC aint buying this:
- says Google opted against hearing after SO /2
- the Letters of Facts just "refined" the "provisional" AEC test set out in SO, in light of Google's own defense
- and AEC test is only "one element" of the revenue-share case.
Interesting interaction with Judge Marcoulli who asked about relevance of UPS ruling (C-265/17 P) /3
Day4 of #GoogleHearing is upon us: they'll discuss procedural irregularities & the mega 4.34bn fine.
On procedure:
- Google says EC should have sent it formal charges (and not a so-called Letter of Facts), since this would have triggered a right to a closed-doors hearing. /1
- Not doing so deprived it of the right to be heard
- Google also says EC didn't record minutes of interviews with other companies sufficiently. Again, this means its defence rights were harmed.
- EC says: the LoF had no new charges, so it didn't need to be an SO. /2
- And also Google gave up right to a hearing when it didn't have one after getting the first SO.
- as to interviews: EC says it doesn't have to record every last utterance of an informal chat as an "interview."
On the fine:
- Google says it's the biggest ever in history /3