Every justification for renewables is based on the unchallenged assumption that we will continue to steadily increase our energy consumption.
There is absolutely no debate that to build anything material in the current universe requires energy input.
There is absolutely no debate that to build anything material in the current universe requires energy input.
2. Renewable energy machines are material objects and they exist within a certain structure of known operating principles, which we call laws. Laws of physics, laws of thermodynamics.
So to build anything big takes big energy.
We are talking about building several Terawatts.
So to build anything big takes big energy.
We are talking about building several Terawatts.
3. Tell me where you get the minimum physically required energy to do that. Because that comes first.
The energy consumption, or throughput, comes first. Cause must precede effect.
The energy consumption, or throughput, comes first. Cause must precede effect.
4. Nobody will address that question, because it is mandatory to jump directly to, "If we get that energy from fossil fuels it will emit blah blah..."
True.
Don't do that.
Reduce energy demand.
This is a physical possibility which is guaranteed to work, and the payback is front.
True.
Don't do that.
Reduce energy demand.
This is a physical possibility which is guaranteed to work, and the payback is front.
5. Saying that making 6 or 7 Terawatts of renewable energy and the batteries to store it will not be the biggest fossil fuel expenditure in world history is science denial.
Show me where you get the energy to build it. By gigatons of CO2, preferably.
This is the only question.
Show me where you get the energy to build it. By gigatons of CO2, preferably.
This is the only question.
It just annoys me.
One thing we could live without, which we are building as fast as possible, because someday in the future it is alleged to allow us to get energy which we can demonstrably live without -
No. It won't work.
Don't burn the fuel to make the damn things. Step one.
One thing we could live without, which we are building as fast as possible, because someday in the future it is alleged to allow us to get energy which we can demonstrably live without -
No. It won't work.
Don't burn the fuel to make the damn things. Step one.
Step two: slow down everything once every year until nothing goes faster than a horse can run or a sailing ship sail.
If you get halfway there you have reduced your emissions more than all the magic energy towers you wanted to burn fossil fuel to build could save if they could.
If you get halfway there you have reduced your emissions more than all the magic energy towers you wanted to burn fossil fuel to build could save if they could.
Every reason for using high energy is trumped by the total efficiency of not using it.
The more ways you can find to use less, the deeper your emissions fall.
If you get to where you can run the entire global economy on no more renewables than you already have, you won. A chance
The more ways you can find to use less, the deeper your emissions fall.
If you get to where you can run the entire global economy on no more renewables than you already have, you won. A chance
I know.
Go ahead.
Suppertime.
Go ahead.
Suppertime.
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