I just interviewed Roger Hallam, co-founder of Extinction Rebellion.
Discussing the incident of the Insulate Britain protesters blocking a woman in tears trying to get to a hospital - he says he’d do the same.
… and he would block an ambulance.
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That’s the shock part to get your attention.
This was a full 1h interview in which we thoroughly covered why he would be prepared for, even maybe welcome, protests to cause deaths. He says that happened in civil unrest movements of the past - only extreme levels are effective.
He also discussed how to break the system and remould it around citizen assemblies to make a power dynamic that is effective at bypassing entrenched power and engaging changes needed.
Keep an eye on The London Economic for more content from this interview.
The interview with Roger Hallam (in which he said he’d block an ambulance with a dying person inside) was 1h long.
If you want to hear his rationale for that - and hear it debated, then below is the full audio.
Mess was started by Vote Leave campaigning with no written prospectus. “Leave SM/CU” was declared late. Messy. Then ERG nutcase pressures. Then Lancaster House speech baked inflexible positions.
You’re talking about a no-deal Brexit here, which would’ve instantly shafted “our science & tech agenda”.
It would’ve frozen all UK Horizon 2020 projects with UK as coordinator (issue wasn’t technically solved), wrecked future collabs, UK reputation [thread]
Also, there would have been instant cessation of data passing between UK and Single Market labs/sci teams. That’s because there would have been no contractual underpinning for data security.
There would also have been no deal on movement of experts/ qualification recognition…
Supplies of sensitive/dangerous/ biological substances would be put on hold (eg DNA or test samples that need chilled/ deep freeze transport) for lack of known regulation and insecurity around time to transport materials that require special shipping conditions…