Transcript of 2015 UNC Baric interview is now up about his bat paper and work. In 2018, his UNC lab (and Wuhan’s WIV) was part of a rejected DARPA grant to add FCS to bat virus & maybe spray China’s caves w/bat vaccine. Anything here? …



H/t @nogofroc
Direct link to transcript: nogofroc.medium.com/twiv-364-6c92d…
UNC’s Ralph Baric in 2015 really believed he had to create dangerous, pandemic-level viruses in his lab to protect the world (27:09). What he doesn’t see in 2015, & what we don’t know yet, is if perhaps all the pandemic preparation planning might have lead to the pandemic itself.
“And so we’re interested in in that as a conceptual approach to provide an alternative future, in the case of an outbreak of highly pathogenic respiratory coronavirus.”
--UNC’s Ralph Baric, Nov 2015 quote from This Week in Virology interview

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4 Oct
Trying to explain what folks are seeing: last week DRASTIC released a leaked 2018 DARPA grant that wasn’t funded, but had some wild proposals: i.e. UNC/EcoH/WIV proposed spraying China’s caves w/bat vaccines made using bat viruses, to protect the world from a bat virus pandemic.
They wrote about adding a furin cleavage site into their lab’s bat viruses & asked DOD to fund them. (The existence of a furin cleavage site in the COVID-19 virus has had scientists scratching their heads, normal bat viruses don’t have these furin cleavage sites, they tell us.)
Some say the COVID-19 virus’ fcs means it came from a lab. Some find it odd no one involved in the 2018 grant told the world they’d had this bat virus proposal out there. Last week,Linfa Wang confirmed his involvement & UNC’s in the rejected grant & defended not saying anything.
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3 Oct
This Nov. 2015 interview of UNC’s Ralph Baric = wild & eery. At min23 says how he got MERS GOF Fauci waiver (right away?), & min26 how he didn’t need waiver for some bat virus research cause it didn’t replicate /“hadn’t gained” microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-364/
h/t @Greg21143362
Baric ends round min33, but not before saying how important it is to have, make, & study really dangerous (my description) viruses to make vaccines and therapeutics against really dangerous viruses.
At min 18 interviewer says, some say these (pathogenic) viruses you are studying in lab could leak out. Ralph Baric says it’s “very unlikely”

FWIW I learned this week viruses are sent around the world on filter paper. Leaking isn’t always overflowing beakers…
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2 Oct
Is this previously unknown EcoHealth $: DOD’s DTRA grant HDTRA1-17-C-0004 P00001 Cited in Feb 7, 2019 paper re bat miner in Thailand, co-authors include EcoH’s K.Olival & DTRA’s Stokes. Paper funded in part by “(DTRA BTRP) (Cooperative Agreement number HDTRA1-17-C-0004 P00001).” Image
DTRA# is FY2016-2020, $3.4mil grant to Thailand’s Chulalongkorn U., where S.W. is affiliated, she’s also author on 2019 paper. Who’s in this consortium & what are they researching? Is EcoH a sub on it? Anyone have that grant application in their files? govtribe.com/award/federal-… Image
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