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@gdemaneuf
Oct 19, 2021 • 10 tweets • 7 min read • Read on X
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Oh Marion, what would we do without you?

You had a good time calling the research-related hypothesis 'Debunked' at the KNAW-symposium in Dec 20.

Alongside meteorite (!), snakes and some other flotsam.
You had been working for a while with your the Chinese side of the WHO-Team (remote work started around Oct-Nov 20) and you were already pretty clear on your convictions.

You made the same claims in June 21, adding that there was no point going further:
You were also very dismissive of any criticism, and fully in line on this with a now very compromised Peter Daszak, who at the time was hiding DEFUSE:
Yow even said that there was no point asking for hard data from the WIV or any other lab, because really you didn't think it would change anything (just like that!).

Great investigative skills!
Do you think that this is the right open scientific attitude to be working on SAGO?

Or are the negativity, dismissive attitude, lack of concern and a fully formed opinion (without asking for data) a requirement for the job?
I note that you have been involved in Gain of Function research of concern for decades.

A total of 27 publications with Ron Fouchier (and others) (2004-2021):

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=%28mario…
Not much different from Vincent Racaniello, the host of the TWiV show with you, Peter Daszak and Thea Fisher (also on SAGO).
He is a smart scientist I am sure, but also one who in 2016 was stating in a paper that the GoF moratorium should be rescinded because the benefit outweighed the risk.

Just like with you, that would not influence his position today - right?
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/artic…
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Jun 8
Fauci did the biodefense work he was asked to do back in 2002/3 when this was largely transferred to him under the NIH.

That’s the issue.
And that’s why there is a consensus not to go after him, while avoiding the biodefense can of worms.
As China was started to steam ahead on its own in 2017-18, be it sampling, GoF or various synthetic biology experiments, EHA was starting to be left behind.

EHA tried to stay on the train with the GVP and DEFUSE. That failed, as the risk-reward equations looked bad.

But within the NIH grants framework, Daszak was able to obfuscate his difficulties just enough, while the NIH was clueless enough to keep the game going into new territories.

Then as the degrading picture became more clear, some on the Track II Biodefense side thought that this was basically the only chance left to keep a seat on that train.

So, just at the time when it was losing control, the NIH looked the other way.
The result is a screw-up that was predictable from day one (back in 2002/3).

Now the NIH finds itself with grant and policy breaches, with Fauci demonstrably trying to prevent an investigation.

But the fact is that this was a Track II Biodefense game, played within the NIH, with imperatives of its own.

It’s like trying to fit a square plug in a round hole.

@emilyakopp @R_H_Ebright
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Jun 6
1/8 The story of one of the worst policy failures in US history in a nutshell, as an introduction to my latest work on the USAID and EHA grants in South East Asia:

Left Behind:
@emilyakopp @natashaloder @zeynep @KatherineEban Image
2/8 Limited Options: Image
3/8 About Daszak's R01 grant: Image
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May 30
1/11 Question for @COVIDSelect:

How come that Daszak's R01 AI110964 lists San Pya clinic (Myanmar) and Institut Pasteur (Cambodia) as in-country partners, when in fact these confirmed that they were NEVER contacted by EHA and have no idea why they are showing up on the grant? Image
2/11 Not only that, but the April 2020 update by EHA positively states that San Pya Clinic and Institut Pasteur Cambodia performed their assigned tasks and sent their samples to the WIV.

@emilyakopp @KatherineEban
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3/11 I am not sure how you call this, but mis-reporting and likely fraud come to mind..

Not exactly a typo:
These entities were listed over and over in the grant documents, and are even attested as having done their work by EHA, but were never contacted by EHA!
@R_H_Ebright Image
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May 8
Daszak did 4 months of detention in 1986 for stealing a TV set, a hi-fi, a statue and some other items, so that he could indulge in his alcohol fuelled ‘fun’ at other people’s expense.

This fraud later managed to get hold of 100s millions of US taxpayers money.
Someone saw through him very early:

“Judge Lloyd-Jones told Daszak that he had been given more chances than most and had abused other people trust.”
Daszak was such a precocious character:

“He is being maintained by the State at a cost of GBP 1,500 per year, and this is the way he repays the state”.
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Apr 4
Another retraction for Robert Garry.

I may be losing track, but it is at least his third retraction.
There is also on expression of concern for one of his papers.
@thackerpd @KatherineEban @emilyakopp
See previous thread:
At this stage that should raise alarm bells all around.

Next one should be Proximal Origin.
Read 4 tweets
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Mar 13
Here is an important reminder to the Kindergarten epidemiologists who aim to compare themselves to John Snow.

Epidemiology 101:
John Snow never considered his map as proving anything. He relied on fortuitous control groups and cases reviews to establish causality
@mvankerkhoveImage
See for instance this image and extract from a recent paper:

Confirmation of the centrality of the Huanan market among early COVID-19 cases
Reply to Stoyan and Chiu (2024)
arxiv.org/pdf/2403.05859…

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John Snow was not a colourist of maps, sorry.

I know that popular culture has transformed the Broad Street map into a meme, but that is totally wrong and can only hurt the discipline.
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