You had a good time calling the research-related hypothesis 'Debunked' at the KNAW-symposium in Dec 20.
Alongside meteorite (!), snakes and some other flotsam.
You had been working for a while with your the Chinese side of the WHO-Team (remote work started around Oct-Nov 20) and you were already pretty clear on your convictions.
You made the same claims in June 21, adding that there was no point going further:
You were also very dismissive of any criticism, and fully in line on this with a now very compromised Peter Daszak, who at the time was hiding DEFUSE:
Yow even said that there was no point asking for hard data from the WIV or any other lab, because really you didn't think it would change anything (just like that!).
Great investigative skills!
Do you think that this is the right open scientific attitude to be working on SAGO?
Or are the negativity, dismissive attitude, lack of concern and a fully formed opinion (without asking for data) a requirement for the job?
I note that you have been involved in Gain of Function research of concern for decades.
A total of 27 publications with Ron Fouchier (and others) (2004-2021):
Not much different from Vincent Racaniello, the host of the TWiV show with you, Peter Daszak and Thea Fisher (also on SAGO).
He is a smart scientist I am sure, but also one who in 2016 was stating in a paper that the GoF moratorium should be rescinded because the benefit outweighed the risk.
@CD57227 @JanKlimkowski @Florin_Uncovers @DavRoeck @R_H_Ebright @emilyakopp @zeynep Your link does not work unfortunately. Can you give one that works?
Quite a few foundations there (Stiftungen).
@CD57227 @JanKlimkowski @Florin_Uncovers @DavRoeck @R_H_Ebright @emilyakopp @zeynep - Schweizerische Eidgenossenschat, Bundesamt für Kultur (BAK) (some funding if 10% is shot in Switzerland)
- Zürcher Filmstiftung
- Stiftung Volkart
- UBS Kulturstiftung
- Stiftung Corymbo
- Ernst Göhner Stiftung
@CD57227 @JanKlimkowski @Florin_Uncovers @DavRoeck @R_H_Ebright @emilyakopp @zeynep Zürcher Filmstiftung
CHF 60,000 to develop the project, on 16Mar 2021: filmstiftung.ch/die-forderung/…
@CD57227 @DavRoeck @Florin_Uncovers More details. Daszak had a work/vacation at end Oct 2022 during which he went top What Khao Ching Pan, but that was before the filming.
The filming occurred during the first two weeks of December.
Note that Daszak went vi Zurich and shared the flight to Bangkok with Markolin.
He often does that for key people: Farrar from Geneva to London in Feb 2020, Koopmans from Wuhan to Amsterdam after the 2021 WHO mission, etc.
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@CD57227 @DavRoeck @Florin_Uncovers One key point is that Daszak was taking some journalists in a SEA trip at that very time, to gather support (especially related to his poached Lao samples problems with Latinne et al).
1/12 Nice article by @stephaniebenz and @yohanblavignat summarizing the situation as to the origins debate.
It captures very well the absurd cheap certitudes of the 100% zoonosis fans, and the questions that such a rush to close an existential debate raises. lexpress.fr/sciences-sante…
2/12 If asked, I would say that after the wise 50/50 position that any scientist should have initially considered, most of the developments have been towards a research-related accident, with many predictions there coming true,
3/12 On the contrary, the ground has been weakening under the zoonotic side, with demolished market papers, no animal reservoir identified, and a lot of time wasted on candidate pangolins and racoon dogs.
Flo Debarre is mentioned here as someone jumping to conclusions that are in fact essentially speculations (the whole raccoon dog saga),