FAANG (Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, Google) came about purely with regards to total compensation. ~2014 onwards these companies paid the most TC, in a large part thanks to large stock grants & stock 📈.

There are still few places you can make so much with so little risk.
There are plenty of places where as an eng you could outperform total compensation packages of FANG: most notably recently IPO’d companies (eg Doordash, Robolox, Coinbase, Robinhood etc) or when joining companies with good timing (eg Snap).

You had to take more risks for these.
I also feel FAANG is overhyped especially for new grads who desperately want to get in and somehow this naming fuels it’s own “myth”.

Professional growth-wise there are so many comparable places - with less competition to get in, similar cultures and compensation.
Other abbreviations that never stuck:

PAULS: Pinterest, Airbnb, Uber, Lyft, Stripe. ~2017 was expected they can beat FAANG total compensation after they IPO.

FAANGMULA - adding Microsoft, Uber, Lyft, Airbnb around 2018 (similar expectations).

U & L fell short on expectations.

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20 Oct
I'd also add that when you observe things in tech that *you* think don't make sense - e.g. hiring, promos etc - this is an opportunity to ask "why?" and dig deeper.

Tech is full of companies who keep optimizing their way of working, even it doesn't make sense from the outside.
Hiring is a perfect example.

"Hiring is broken!" - say people looking for jobs. "Companies don't know what they're doing" - many cry.

But hiring is full of tradeoffs, and from the view of the company and hiring manager, it often works well enough from their point of view.
Tech is a place where it’s realistic for many to start a company and do things the way they want to do it.

I’ve found this is the point many founders have “aha!” moments, when they learn about the constraints that have led to many “doesn’t make sense” practices from the outside.
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13 Oct
This is now happening and the pay is above Berlin sr eng levels.

For senior engineers, I’m hearing Doordash is paying €120-150K/year total comp in Berlin (€90-110K base salary, $130-210K stock over 4 years).

Hello competition!
For context: it was very, very hard for a senior engineer to break the €100K “glass ceiling” in Berlin. Companies like Zalando/similar ones pay €85K/yr in salary. No equity.

Doordash just doubled this.

Source: people saying thanks for this early tip who accepted DD offers.
Glad this person paid attention - and so are they.

When you’re early and few people know about some companies, and you suspect it’s a company with a larger than usual compensation package: it’s easier to get an offer than when everyone already knows about them. Image
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12 Oct
With Amazon announcing they will allow remote work*

*with and only with approvals from L7/L8

Let me share how I’ve observed lots of long-tenured engineers & EMs leave Amazon recently. A hot market where Amazon caliber talent can get a lot more probably doesn’t help either.
Note that this for the US. In EU, Amazon still pays well (well… most companies don’t) and the infamous Amazon “PIP culture” is not present, thanks to strict employee protections.

I predict Amazon will expand more outside the US.

Source of first image: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=288310…
Amazon has mastered paying for the least overall amount of cash for the type of world-class engineers they need (people building at scale), optimising the math for maximum tenure.

Basically, they are being the cheapest among the higher paying companies. This also bites them now.
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11 Oct
Here's a "test" I've put together to get a sense of what working at a tech company could be like - and things that are typically not advertised on job boards.

Places with more "yes"es are typically more eng-friendly, and predictable cultures.

What is your take?
Instead of asking "do you pay a competitive compensation package", a much more telling question is "do all engineers get equity or profit-sharing?"

The most competitive comp packages *all* have this component. Those that don't will not be top of the market for fulltime offers.
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11 Oct
It never ceases to amaze me how people with incredible early career trajectories at big tech have unrealistic expectations on keeping advancing (and the absurdity of this).

Here’s a quote from an engineer at Facebook who is frustrated for not being promoted for years:
“I went from E3 (new grad) to E6 (staff) in 7 years. Now stuck at E6 for 2 years. I want to stay an IC but what am I doing wrong?”

“Buddy. You’re in the top 2-3% of FB engineers already. Most IC engineers *retire* at the equivalent of E7 in the industry (eg at Amazon).”
For perspective the majority (>50%) of engineers at Facebook will never reach E6.

If your goal is to climb the big tech corp ladder above, you best get ready to change how you work and get into management-like work.

Or stay cozy, or move out of big tech (join / fund a startup)
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9 Oct
There’s a debate on whether 10x software engineers exist.

They do: I’ve seen several of them.

And their existence freaks the hell out of me. 5 examples of 10x engineers and why you should be afraid when you see one:
1. The Move-Fast-And-Leave-Behind. A dev with a hacks mindset at a scaleup. They get shit done 10x faster than the engineers who that take this (literally) shit over when it needs to scale, try to reverse engineer it, but ultimately have to toss and rewrite the whole thing.
2. The That’s Trivial To Finish. Someone w many product-minded traits blog.pragmaticengineer.com/the-product-mi… amazing at prototyping and telling the non-technical manager they’ve done 90% of the work, and the other devs should have no problem finishing the last 10%. Which then takes 10x as long.
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