VRBPAC meeting Tuesday to discuss risk/benefit ratio. Much will depend on the value of case suppression which I think should be considered in context of schools and families. Meeting materials at link below
Trial was too small (n ~ 1500 in vaccine group) to see myocarditis. FDA estimated benefits vs risks assuming MC rate similar to 12-17yo getting 30ug (maybe overestimate; 5-11yo get 10ug).
I think scenario 4 is most realistic. Scenario 5 uses CDC's observed CFR, but cases likely undercounted. Scenario 4 uses a wider observation network. Scenario 4 also uses the actual VE seen in the trial. Most cases in the trial were July-August, so were Delta.
I'm most impressed that Pfizer seemed to have picked the Goldilocks dosage. 10ug was enough to get 90% VE against Delta, yet is only 1/3 of the dosage for ≥12yo
For the curious, the trips to the ICU for myocarditis probably involve intravenous immunoglobulin and steroids as rapid-acting anti-inflammatories pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediat…
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We can compare the UK experience to other similar countries to understand the role of public health rules in limiting disease.
Here I choose the Netherlands for comparison since it is close geographically, has similar vaccine rates, and had an initial Delta surge of similar size
As apparent from the graph above, UK doesn't come out too well. But first let's establish the conditions. Vaccination rates are similar between UK and Netherlands
Age structure is similar with the Netherlands having slightly more people in age segments >50yo
Fig 2A: Antibody levels after boost go as Moderna100 > Pfizer > J&J
Moderna50 would be in between Moderna100 and Pfizer, most likely
Fig 2B: p values were not done for differences in post-boost antibody levels by booster group, but for diffs in fold change within individuals by booster group. Subtle distinction, but the latter is more variable (boxes and whiskers are taller). Anyway all diffs significant.
You mean high yield like this? Heard a few public health people quoted saying it wasn't necessary or that it would be harmful.
Probably an unrepresentative minority, but they seem to get a lot of airtime. nejm.org/doi/full/10.10…
But actually it was masks the OP was complaining about: "there is a time and place for them".
Okay since everyone is asking about which booster to get, I decided to think about it quantitatively and arrived at some general conclusions.
1. If you're J&J or Pfizer, boost with Pfizer or Moderna (the 50mcg booster dose) 2. If Moderna, boost with any depending on your risk...
This supercedes anything I might have said earlier. Reasoning is as follows.
The NIH mix & match booster study tested all combinations in a neutralizing antibody assay where a level of 100 IU50/mL correlates with 91% protection pre-Delta
If you're going to boost, seems might as well try to get to 90% protection again. We adjust for Delta requiring 4x higher antibodies to neutralize (consistent finding across many vaccines, some may remember). That makes 400 IU50/mL, the blue line below
Turns out there were 2 studies last week comparing J&J + J&J booster to J&J + Pfizer booster! One was NIH, as most know. The other is from Singapore and it looks like a solid study too.
Most interesting: they looked at T cells too, not just antibodies!
We see again that J&J+Pfizer gave higher antibody levels and neutralizing activity than J&J+J&J, and similar to Pfizer+Pfizer. Note wide range of interdose intervals (43-71d for J&J+J&J, 11-180d for J&J+Pfizer) but Ab levels actually quite tight.
While antibodies are the first line of defense and what block you getting infected, it's essential to have T cells for avoiding late complicatinos. It's widely proposed that the Ad vaccine of J&J may elicit more T cells.
I had some hope FDA might do this, after Dr. Marks' said in Friday's VRBPAC meeting that they'd like to know what info was needed to approve mixed boosters, and some VRBPAC members replied that the "Mix and Match Booster Trial" results were clear enough
I'd learned from repeated lack of action not to hope too much. Gathering info on the benefits of heterologous boosts for #JnJers and seeing it tossed aside for various nonreasons made me feel like Sisyphus rolling a stone
So this news is like Sisyphus finally cresting the hill