Recommend you go through the whole thread. None of the Respectable Theologians dunking on the fact that I clipped the esteemed JLDIII have addressed any of the questions in there. Contrary to what you've heard, I'm not here just to drag famous people down...
...If I wanted to build an online platform that way, I'd be zeroed in on Bethel/Johnson, Elevation/Furtick, etc. I'm mostly interested in issues and ideas and drawing out how the progressive theological world sees them, plus how they're influencing conservatives.
As I noted in that thread and as @SovMichael pointed out, the "immigration will bring more Christians and thus revival" is not just an awkward turn of phrase from JLD. It's a talking point. I documented this to establish the pattern, after Keller said the same at TGC21...
...So this line of inquiry is not over. I want to find out who came up with that talking point, which does not survive the most basic scrutiny, and I want to analyze why seemingly conservative theologians are falling for it and not exercising said scrutiny.
Hey, this thread's getting too serious. Do check out this meme from the middle of the Ligon thread, one of my best imho...
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"The COVID vaccine...may have a distant origin story in abortion, but that past has been reworked + redeemed into something that saves life. We can point to the vaccine and say: Jesus' redemption is kind of like that."
Youth pastors, pack it up. There's no beating this one.
"Each of us has had our story reworked by Jesus into new life. That's what it ultimately means to be pro-life. To be pro-life is to be pro-redemption. And to be pro-redemption, in my view, means being pro-vaccine."
Curtis Chang, "Redeeming Babel"
This, apparently, is seen as convincing rhetoric by authors such as John Piper and David French who have shared it.
...And that foreword ends with an endorsement of Eric Mason as a "transcendent voice," "above the fray," who doesn't "unnecessarily divide or confuse" like other Christians speaking on race.
"I look forward to sitting at his feet to listen and learn."
Quick stroll through memory lane. Dr. Mason is certainly not "above the fray," as he is given to fits of rage from the pulpit (watch to the end):
"In conservative evangelical circles, often times there'll be a real concern about immigration, and especially, what? Illegal immigration...But here's the thing. What if that is God's plan to reverse secularization in the United States?"
Ligon Duncan
Thread incoming 🧵.
This clip'll probably earn some dunking in the quote-RTs, because there's a lot of perfectly innocuous things to agree with. But I'd like to unpack some of the assumptions in it that reveal a really ugly anthropology.
The point, in brief:
As @SovMichael points out, this has been a talking point from the WEF/CFR-adjacent evangelical elites for a long time. Plus the claim "immigration aids the Great Commission b/c it brings the nations to our doorstep." Duncan uses it earlier in this talk.
"I personally think the Holy Ghost evicted us. I think the Lord evicted us from our churches [with lockdowns] so that we might have a moment to breathe and...reimagine what it means to truly be just."
Tonyia Rawls / Union Presbyterian Seminary talk on "Queer Justice"
"In the Bible when the experience of the wrestling with the angel happened, the question is: What is your name? When Moses encounters the divine: Who shall I tell sent me? Naming, identifying, this is what the alphabet [LGBTQIA+], these designations are all about."
Cedric Harmon
"Where the church failed, where Noah did not, was the church began to determine who was safe to accept + who was no longer safe to accept. We did just the opposite of the example that God showed us through Noah + the ark."
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Again, overwhelmed by the influx of new followers this week because of the Kathy Hochul clip. If you're not familiar with my work, here are some highlights from the past year+...
I was an aimless reply guy anon when I watched this bizarre sermon from Eric Mason, author of "Woke Church," and figured it would be helpful for people to see what exactly he's teaching, split up into social media-sized clips.
That thread got such a big response, I decided to switch the name and theme of my account. I started looking up sermons and conference talks from various so-called "moderate" pastors and found insanely far-left ideologies.
These "David Raped Bathsheba" takes are getting considerably weirder
you thought I was done, didn't you
Okay, here's the climax, which actually is relevant to the socjus discourse:
"We are made in the image of God...That doesn't just mean that your body is good...It means that you are good. All of you...We are infinitely good, and we are infinitely lovable."