The fragility, limited shelf-life and wastage of Moderna and Pfizer vaccines is a feature, not a bug.

$MRNA $PFE
The West's (one sided) loyalty to the mRNA vaccines, despite a non-negligible resistance to the platform from some patients & parents, some rising contraindications & undeniably increasing prices, loyalty to the point of cancelling orders from other companies, is almost comical.
Countries basically create a vaccine duopoly themselves, with their own research ( $MRNA) or gov funding (OWS), then with their own orders, then making it the only recognized vaccine for foreigners' vax-pass, then complain of duopoly tactics & higher prices.
#SelfInflicted
Now that we all know (or admit) that the "mRNA vaccines can be updated in 2 mins/hours/days/weeks" is a lie, that the price is going the other way, that the route of administration may be suboptimal, it's time for governments to think of better longer-term solution.
It does not take some math genius, Simpson's paradox-crunching-in-his-sleep Beautiful Mind to figure out that $175 dollars (or whatever $PFE consider "normal" pricing per single dose) can buy a lot of vaccine doses from other platforms and that more people vaccinated = better.
It is neutralizing antibodies that protect. These are induced by the spike protein, any S made in anything: plants, vero cells, moths, virus in eggs, etc.

If you think mRNA #LuxVax are the only ones who can also induce T cells, you're wrong + the T cells are in the wrong place.
"But the T cells will arrive to the lungs/nose in time. Give them a few days." Fine, but we already have these T cells. Anyone infected or vaccinated with mRNA (or Advector) has them. If you can wait a few days for CD8s, then just boost with something else.
If the most important things are cost, shelf-life, ease-of-updates, (lack of) reactogenicity, induction of neutralizing antibodies, route (?) and public uptake, you'll find that other vaccine companies will be the better choice in the "endemic" phase.

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14 Nov
The morons are at it again.

"What makes more sense"?

There are only two options. 3rd dose or no 3rd dose.

In what reality does not taking a vaccine make more sense than taking one?

None. Makes no immunological sense.
What difference does it make?
"Exhaust your immune system" has entered the chat.
Read 8 tweets
13 Nov
This idea that Europeans taking a booster or a fraction of American kids taking a fraction (1/3rd) of a Pfizer dose is taking vaccines away from other countries is not supported by the data.

Vaccination in the US and Europe is way down.

But people on Twitter love to punch down.
"Canadians are taking too many vaccines," meanwhile, no booster for vulnerable, no shots for kids.
Read 4 tweets
14 Oct
Why SARS-CoV was more virulent than SARS-CoV-2
(part of the reason, temps, replication kinetics) and why temperature won't tell us a lot about origins or intermediary animals.
Bats have higher temps than minks and civets.

But just because it transmits in the air doesn't mean that it needs to be a (cool temp) respiratory infection. Could be an enteric one in the animals, where it's hotter.
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