Just heard a case (not from my school) of two desi boys who were on a bus discussing some cheating plans (can't share details) for a grad course. In an Indian language, not realizing that a white person behind them was a prof who understood the language cos of personal history.
The prof contacted the department the men... Not boys... These were men cheating on a course... Anyway, the course and the students were identified. Academic integrity case was pretty open and shut. Kicked out of the program. Cos of how ingrained cheating is Indian education.
At the hearing, the white prof was able to quote almost verbatim, in said Indian language, their plans, including the profanity.
The lesson here isn't that never assume your conversations are private.
The lesson here is, don't cheat.
The worst part apparently was that the two students weren't even struggling in the course or anything. And according to the professor, did understand the material and were smart. But it's like they decided to do everything by hook or crook for that guaranteed A. In one course.
By doing so, their entire academic past is now in question. Who knows what grades in their transcripts were theirs and which were from cheating? That's kinda why there's generally a one strike and you're out approach to blatant cheating in US schools.
I've seen a few such cases. And it's often "pehli galti, maaf Kar do" and they don't get it's not pehli galti, but pehli baar pakde gaye. Kya maloom kitne-sau-vi galti hai.
"Please forgive first mistake"
No, it's just the first time you were caught. Could be your 100th time.
Forgiveness and reform is something you'll see if cheating is caught in middle or high schools or even early in college years, like maybe one warning. But a 24 year old grad student can't stand there and say, pehli galti, maaf Kar do. Just doesn't work.
Yeah, this is not the kind of leniency you'll see in the US for academic cheating. Lots of other crimes. But not this.
Remember that Biden first ran for President in 1988 as a high flying young senator. Was caught plagiarizing parts of a speech. Not even academic cheating. A speech. Ended his campaign. Took an honest mea culpa and 30 years of work for the public to forgive him on that.
Without that plagiarism instance, who knows, he could have been president instead of Bush Sr. Or even been a serious contender in the wide open Dem primary of 92 that created the Clinton dynasty.
America made him wait 32 years.
Has anyone in India ever paid a price for plagiarism? I mean even our Teacher's Day celebrates a known academic plagiarist.
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(I have been to konkan a lot tho, so no stranger to Arabian Sea vacations. Just that where I grew up, it was always, "Goa kiti mahaag padta aani kashala? Pori baghaayla gaccha gardeet? Tyapeksha aapla Diveagar-Dapoli barey! Masta maasey, rikaame swacchha beach, ah!")
Translation - "Goa is nice but so expensive! And for what? Staring at hot women on overcrowded beaches? Nah! Let's do Diveagar or Dapoli instead. Much cheaper. Empty clean beaches. Fresh awesome fish."
I'm mildly surprised that the Muslim world and especially Muslim social media worldwide is mostly ignoring the daily assaults on Muslims in India by the state on a daily basis.
You don't have to be a doctorate in history to see the direct parallels.
Nazis used a pincer movement strategy not just on the battlefield but also against their hated minorities.
From one side, vigilante mobs butchering people.
The other, legislation & economic attacks.
In 1930s Germany, they created legislative hurdles against marrying Jews. And roving mobs of brownshirts would punish defiant lovers and even random couples. Ranging from public shaming to murder.
That is playing out with love jihad and Romeo squad.
Random cricket trivia. India is historically the hardest team to get a test hat-trick against. All other established test teams have been on the receiving end of multiple hat-tricks. India was untouched till 2011 when Stuart Broad got the first and as of now the only one.
India was also historically bad at taking hat-tricks. All 3 Indian test hat-tricks have come in the 21st century.
There's no point in looking for reasons because there can be no reasons. A test hat-trick is an extremely unlikely event. Only 46 in over 2000 tests. It's just a random statistical thing, these oddities about Indian test hat-tricks. Nothing deeper.
Maybe one day in our lifetimes, India will pass something like the Civil Rights Act. Something that explicitly outlaws discrimination, segregation, etc. And enables real expensive lawsuits based on outcomes data. You don't even have to show intent to discriminate.
In India, of course, a whole host of institutions and vast swathes of elites explicitly and openly call for discrimination against Muslim and de facto segregation of them. They don't even hide intent.
I get the pessimism in the replies here and I share it for the most part. I don't see it happening anytime soon.
But I should point out that the Civil Rights Act didn't pass easily either. Many lives were lost for it. It wasn't some fortuitous progressive legislation.
I tried out a new story I'm planning to use for a case study in class on a friend recently and it landed nicely. I said to him:
In diverse blue places like NY/NJ/CA/DC/Boston we see a lot of Indian, Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Mexican, Middle Eastern restaurants, right?
He says right.
And in day to day life in these places, how often do you come across an Indian, Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Mexican, Middle Eastern person?
He said very regularly. Almost daily.
Right. There's also a lot of Italian restaurant. Lots of Italian origin people.
Yup.
What is one cuisine that is as common as any of these cuisines all over USA, but you barely meet any immigrants from that country?
He was like hmmm, Vietnamese? Caribbean?
I said nah, lots of immigrants/refugees from both places.
A British exchange student told me about being surprised that "Bombay Mix" isn't available at all corner shops in New Jersey, given how many Indians there are here.
I do think there is a huge market opportunity for namkeen mixture in the broader US market.
Just call it Savory Gluten Free trail mix. Leave out peanuts and add "nut free" versions. Put "Chickpeas based" in bold letters on the packaging. Y'all have no idea how many chickpea based products hit US retail aisles. It's shocking not a single one is Indian.
I guess my British student's reaction was the opposite of my delight at how widely available Desi snacks, especially Bombay Mix, are in the UK.