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A buddy asked in a conversation, "Do right leaning people have to adopt the stupid ACAB mindset of the wokies on Twatter?"
Strange as it might sound, it warrants a brief investigation.
A buddy asked in a conversation, "Do right leaning people have to adopt the stupid ACAB mindset of the wokies on Twatter?"
Strange as it might sound, it warrants a brief investigation.
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The woke "ACAB" is a shorthand for a broader idea of "police as a system and institution is broken". Under the "ACAB" banner, the accent is more on the whole of the system & institution - and less on individual officers.
The woke "ACAB" is a shorthand for a broader idea of "police as a system and institution is broken". Under the "ACAB" banner, the accent is more on the whole of the system & institution - and less on individual officers.
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The wokes have various leftist beefs with the police, like "overpolicing certain ethnicities", "police brutality", "blue wall of silence", the generic "racism" and "white supremacy". Also "protecting / siding with white supremacists". They often throw in "domestic violence".
The wokes have various leftist beefs with the police, like "overpolicing certain ethnicities", "police brutality", "blue wall of silence", the generic "racism" and "white supremacy". Also "protecting / siding with white supremacists". They often throw in "domestic violence".
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Is this the same reservations as we raise? NO, very much no. In fact they are largely *the mirror opposite*.
What we contend with is:
- crack-down on natural rights, like self defense & free speech
- excusing various crimes for sake of diversity
- pandering to the leftists
Is this the same reservations as we raise? NO, very much no. In fact they are largely *the mirror opposite*.
What we contend with is:
- crack-down on natural rights, like self defense & free speech
- excusing various crimes for sake of diversity
- pandering to the leftists
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The contentions from the wokes are partly result of pervasive propaganda ("police bad"), partly matter of different & opposing civilizational goals & measures. The wokes are strict equalitarians, and measure their successes through lens of *culturally* equal results & statuses
The contentions from the wokes are partly result of pervasive propaganda ("police bad"), partly matter of different & opposing civilizational goals & measures. The wokes are strict equalitarians, and measure their successes through lens of *culturally* equal results & statuses
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Lastly, the wokes are *very* happy to use police for political ends. In fact the wokes perceive it as "evil" when the police is *not* engaged in political policing according to woke standards. Which boils down to *morality policing* in the woke worldview.
Lastly, the wokes are *very* happy to use police for political ends. In fact the wokes perceive it as "evil" when the police is *not* engaged in political policing according to woke standards. Which boils down to *morality policing* in the woke worldview.
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To sum it up: the list of problems with police are largely the *mirror opposite* between wokes & rw.
Is there a plane for a tactical alliance on the subject? Emphatically *NO*.
To sum it up: the list of problems with police are largely the *mirror opposite* between wokes & rw.
Is there a plane for a tactical alliance on the subject? Emphatically *NO*.
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There's one meta-contention common between the woke and the rw: "the police is policing us according to other people's standards". However the proposed solutions are again mirror opposite.
There's one meta-contention common between the woke and the rw: "the police is policing us according to other people's standards". However the proposed solutions are again mirror opposite.
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The woke solution is one homogenous police enforcing same standards through the whole nation. Side note: the wokes expect "one nation" to gradually encompass the whole of humanity.
No cultural differences allowed, beyond the superficial "diversity".
The woke solution is one homogenous police enforcing same standards through the whole nation. Side note: the wokes expect "one nation" to gradually encompass the whole of humanity.
No cultural differences allowed, beyond the superficial "diversity".
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The rw solution is one of complementary, local polices, enforcing standards specific to the people they are policing. This means, yes, sometimes disparate effects in similar circumstances, because the local culture and the local people differ.
Mirror platform, really.
The rw solution is one of complementary, local polices, enforcing standards specific to the people they are policing. This means, yes, sometimes disparate effects in similar circumstances, because the local culture and the local people differ.
Mirror platform, really.
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Note that since the wokes have cultural stranglehold on the *big, centralized* institutions, their woke platform of "Abolish the police" has an unsaid part: "Abolish [your local] police, continue with [our centralized] police". Overseen & controlled by the woke institutions.
Note that since the wokes have cultural stranglehold on the *big, centralized* institutions, their woke platform of "Abolish the police" has an unsaid part: "Abolish [your local] police, continue with [our centralized] police". Overseen & controlled by the woke institutions.
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Another way to put it is,
rw view: "citizens police each other, to standards particular in their own locations; the police are specialized citizens"
woke view: "the government polices people to nationwide (eventually worldwide) standard; policing is unique to the gov"
Another way to put it is,
rw view: "citizens police each other, to standards particular in their own locations; the police are specialized citizens"
woke view: "the government polices people to nationwide (eventually worldwide) standard; policing is unique to the gov"
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Those differences *emphatically* precludes any temporary alliance with the wokes on the "ACAB mindset".
You can successfully ally with people like Michael Malice, who doesn't want much policing at all, *including* centralized policing.
/Fin
Those differences *emphatically* precludes any temporary alliance with the wokes on the "ACAB mindset".
You can successfully ally with people like Michael Malice, who doesn't want much policing at all, *including* centralized policing.
/Fin
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