OK - In US v. #GhislaineMaxwell, now final segment before end of Day 3, it's Victim Jane's ex-boyfriend "Matt," uses pseudonym. Inner City Press covered AM innercitypress.com/sdnytrial31max… & will live tweet, thread below
AUSA Moe: How do you know Jane?
Matt: She's my ex-girlfriend. From 2006 to 2014.
AUSA: Did you live together?
Matt: Yes. From 2007 to 2014.
AUSA: Are you still friends?
Matt: Yes. And we work on the same TV show.
AUSA: What did Jane tell you about her home life?
Maxwell's lawyer: Objection.
Judge Nathan: Any foundation?
Maxwell's lawyer: It's hearsay.
[Another non-public sidebar]
They return.
Judge Nathan: Ms. Moe, I'll ask you to narrow the question.
AUSA Moe: Did Jane speak about her family finance when she grew up?
Matt: Yes. That when her father got sick, they went broke. The mother was working a small job. They were in the same bed.
Matt: They she told me she had a godfather. Later she told me it was Jeffrey Epstein. I said, He helped pay your bills? She said Yes.
AUSA: When did she tell you she met Epstein?
Maxwell's lawyer: Objection.
Judge Nathan: Ask more specific questions.
AUSA Moe: Did Jane tell you what happened between her and Jeffrey Epstein?
Matt: Not specifically.
AUSA Moe: Did she say why he gave her money?
Matt: She just said, It was not free.
AUSA Moe: Did they tell you about a women who was involved?
Matt: Yes.
AUSA: Did she give the woman's name?
Matt: No.
AUSA: What was her demeanor like when Jane told you about Jeffrey Epstein?
Matt: Shame.
AUSA: What did Jane tell her mother?
Matt: That the money was not free. That --
AUSA: Don't say what the mother said, just what Jane said.
Matt: Jane told her mother that the money was not free and that it should not have been allowed.
AUSA Moe: Did you learn Ghislaine Maxwell was arrested.
Matt: Yes. On the news. I asked Jane, is that the woman you told me about? And she said Yes.
AUSA: No further questions.
Then Maxwell's lawyer: No cross [!]
Next witness: Daniel Vesselsen of Interlochen
AUSA: Where is Interlochen, Michigan.
Vesselsen: Near Traverse City.
AUSA: How do you keep fundraising records?
Vesselsen: SalesForce.
AUSA: We offer GX 744 under seal. Now GX 741.
Vesselsen: A letter to Mr. Epstein about the scholarship lodge, how much he'd give
AUSA: What's this?
Vesselsen: The lodge formerly known as the Jeffrey Epstein Scholarship Lodge.
[Note: It was definitely time for a name change]
Now at 4:59 pm, cross examination starts.
Maxwell's lawyer: You don't have records for the individual and the individual's siblings, correct?
Vesselsen: Correct.
Maxwell's lawyer: Mr. Epstein certainly was a major donor, correct?
Vesselsen: Yes.
And with that, Vesselsen is done.
Judge Nathan: Sorry we're 2 minutes late. Have a good night.
Clerk: All rise!
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OK - US v. #GhislaineMaxwell Day 5, PM edition, with officer on search of Epstein's residence (found photos of young girls, school girl uniforms, etc). Screens will exclude public & press. Inner City Press will live tweet, thread below patreon.com/posts/59466473
They are showing the jurors a video of the search warrant reading (and execution?) at Epstein's house. But we the Press and public can't see it.
AUSA Maurene Comey: at 1 minute, were are we?
Parkinson: In the 3 car garage
Assistant US Attorney Maurene Comey: What do we see here, during the search?
Officer Parkinson: A picture of Pope John Paul with Jeffrey Epstein.
[Note: while these exhibits are sealed, for some reason, could it be this one, with #GhislaineMaxwell? #MaximumMaxwell
Maxwell's lawyer (before jury comes in) Seeing semen on the table is going to be prejudicial.
AUSA: It was a white stain. It is entirely probative as to whether these massages were just messages or were in fact sexual.
Judge Nathan: I would permit lab tests
Assistant US Attorney: The fact that Mr. Epstein had a collection of school girl uniforms is relevant.
Maxwell's lawyer: This has little connection Ms. Maxwell and is prejudicial.
AUSA: School girl costumes, small ones, were found in the massage room.
AUSA: Look at Government Exhibit 721. Do you recognize it?
Kane: An enrollment application for a student.
AUSA: Don't say the name. Is it an accurate copy?
Kane: Yes.
Maxwell's lawyer: Objection - hearsay!
AUSA: It's a business record.
Judge Nathan: Overruled.
Maxwell's lawyer: Can I question the witness?
Judge Nathan: Go ahead.
Maxwell's lawyer: The Professional Children's School doesn't verify the accuracy of the info on the form, does it?
Kane: I think they do.
Maxwell's lawyer: All of it?
Kane: That, I don't know.
OK - In US v. #GhislaineMaxwell, now after lunch break, more cross-examination of Victim 1 "Jane," with Maxwell's lawyer insisting Jane has mis-remembered & is motivated by money. Inner City Press covered AM innercitypress.com/sdnytrial31max… & will live tweet, thread below
Menninger: So you went to a specialized entertainment school, right?
Menninger: And since then you've played roles like cancer patient?
Jane: Yes.
Menninger: Prostitute?
Jane: No.
Menninger: You can cry on command?
Menninger: You're accusations in this case include that you were 14 went you were abused, right?
Jane: Yes.
Menninger: But you first told the government you were 13, right?
Jane: I might have said 13 going on 14. It's a small technicality.
OK - In US v. #GhislaineMaxwell, now after 11 am break cross-examination of Victim 1 "Jane" is continuing, with Maxwell's lawyer claiming Jane has mis-remembered. Inner City Press covered the morning innercitypress.com/sdnytrial31max… and will live tweet, thread below
Maxwell's lawyer Menninger: You testified yesterday your first has sex with Epstein in his pool house in Florida. But you told the government it was in New York.
Jane: Those are not my notes. I did not write that down and it was not recorded.
Menninger: You told them you only remembered one incident in NY when Ghislaine was present.
Jane: I don't recall.
Menninger: Look at 3509-003. Hasn't your story changed?
Jane: I didn't understand the question.
Judge Nathan: If what the defense bring in is impeachment [of the Witness] material, it's not a Rule 16 issue.
AUSA Rohrbach: It should have been disclosed; it is about a collateral matter.
[Note: these are the lawyers' arguments before the jury comes in at 9:30]
AUSA: The witness couldn't even recognize the photo, & it wasn't impeachment of what she said on the stand.
Judge Nathan: What is the US' understanding of when the witness lived in the address in the [FBI] 302?
AUSA Alison Moe: At 14 she was living in a pool house