No that we are allowed to discuss this a little more freely, it’s very interesting to see the themes that have raged on my timeline for two days now, all stemming from a comment that a female victim of rape ought to be allowed a single sex space for counselling.
1. Trans people are the most marginalised and oppressed group. Even if no trans person has been murdered in the last 2 years and most recent quarter statistics for hate crime shows decrease.
But any data that shows no murders or declining rates of hate crime is dismissed as ‘inaccurate’ or because murder victims were actually trans but had no friends or family willing to state this.
2. Despite being most oppressed etc, no one can actually tell who is trans and who is not. So I am curious therefore as to the root of this oppression, if the public so oblivious as to the identity of their hated target.
3. Sexual attraction is based on something other than sex and attempts to argue otherwise are bigoted or involve ‘fetishisation’ of genitals.
This attempting to ignore the reality that for men and women attracted to men, the penis is a big draw. For men and women attracted to women, the absence of a penis is a big draw.
The conversation has raged over many hours to cover an interesting mix of delusion and denial of very basic statistics or fundaments of human nature. We now have to start unpicking these, with compassion and clarity, to identify the reason this group claims additional protections
Because it cannot be be true at the same time that ‘no one can tell’ AND demand extra protection. The latter is demanded because of easily perceived differences. The female victim of rape could tell and she found it distressing. Why is there no attempt to balance her rights?
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A very odd response. Some legal actions succeed. Some fail. I will donate to whatever I like because #lawfare seems to be our only reliable option here.
I am well aware the challenge to the EHRC failed, alongside challenge to prison policy. But Maya Forstater won. @fairplaywomen won. Kate Scottow won. The Court of Appeal currently deciding on #FairCopAppeal.
I did! Like the introduction - 'you could be forgiven for thinking that all it campaigns about is trans rights' Formed as lobby group in 1989, devasted by infamous section 28 that banned 'promotion' of homosexuality. Stonewall fought for its appeal and equality for gay people.
now it has begun to campaign on trans rights, gaining both praise and 'strong' criticism for is stance on gender identity. It runs 'work place inclusion schemes' covering 25% of workforce, more than 250 are public bodies. Some have left - the BBC, Ofcom, Channel 4 and the EHRC.
Asked NK why she wanted to do the job - as a lesbian my life absolutely transformed by work of Stonewall. Married and adopted two children, illegal until recently. An amazing opportunity to make things better for LGBTQ+ people.
I am not sure which is more concerning. An official police force social media account blithering on about being your ‘true self’ - or one that blocks members of the public who disagree with them.
Which is my ‘true self’? The one who stays up too late, eating smarties and watching poor quality serial killer documentaries? How useful would the is ‘self’ be at work I wonder? Or is it the self that engages in pointless arguments with anonymous people?
Well, at least at work I know who they are so there is that. People’s ‘true self’ is not required in the workplace. You are there to meet the expectations set out in your contract of employment or set by your regulator. If your ‘true self’ conflicts with those, you are out.
I did hestitate to engage with what I considered to be an obvious bad faith interjection - but then I thought I need to put my money where my mouth is and show that discussion is nothing to be scared of. So let’s go.
First, the obvious false equivalence. The debate was not about an existing criminal practice, such as FGM, that has no evidence at all to support it as something that is for the benefit of the children subjected to it. The debate was about 'conversion therapy'.
This is interesting as yet another example of 'forced teaming' which has served the TQ+ pretty well over the years. The Government seeks to ban attempts to 'convert' gay people but also attempts to 'convert' people away from a certain gender identity.
EVERYONE DOES HARD THINGS
What is this? Everyone has pain in their lives. Most people do the best they can with what they have got. There are no medals for any of us I am afraid. No one group should be elevated above any other.
Of course we should not be unkind or dismissive of anyone's struggle if we can help it. But as a disabled person I am growing more and more frustrated with this message of 'awareness' and 'most vulnerable'. Where is #DisabledAwarenessWeek?