A recently developed method, that expresses full spike trimers, enables more accurate measurement of binding IgG1 antibodies. Quite a few interesting results in this study.
First of all, the second dose of mRNA vaccines adds very little extra binding. medrxiv.org/content/10.110…
More importantly, the absolute increase in Delta variant binding antibodies following administration of the 2nd dose to previously infected people is limited to a small subset of adults. At the same time, the relative number of Delta binding Ab to non-binding (old Wuhan) Ab is…
…terribly low. What’s the use of that thick soup of sky high antibodies then? Triggering autoimmunity? 🤔
The authors are not impressed either, although expected such results from shotgun injecting the same antigen, leaving no time for maturation.
So what do these results suggest? The authors’ takeaway clearly is that adding a third dose of the same vaccine could be counterproductive in the vast majority of recipients, except for the immunocompromised who failed to mount a proper response to the first pair of doses.

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11 Oct
Let me strip the unnecessary narrative out of this otherwise nice study/abstract to get a clear picture. Short thread 🧵

Anti-SARS-CoV-2 receptor binding domain antibody evolution after mRNA vaccination
nature.com/articles/s4158…
How infection elicits broad protection
“SARS-CoV-2 infection produces B cell responses that continue to evolve for at least one year. During that time, memory B cells express increasingly broad and potent antibodies that are resistant to mutations found in variants of concern”
Following vaccination
“Between prime and boost, memory B cells produce antibodies that evolve increased neutralizing activity, but there is no further increase in potency or breadth thereafter.”
= the booster is too close to the priming dose and prevents affinity maturation.
Read 8 tweets
24 Aug
Antibody depending enhancement was a threat that looked possible (or even likely) a year ago, based on experience with historical CoV vaccine attempts. Then it started to look like a non-issue during trials and early rollout. Now it’s back on the table. First described in… 1/7
…a paper published in February, i.e. prior the emergence of Delta and only looking at Wuhan-Wuhan re-exposure. Enhancement was seen in just a small subset of macaques:
cell.com/cell/fulltext/…
Then a study that used a Wuhan-Delta sequence of spike exposure found something… 2/7
…really different👇🏻 journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-…
So what does that mean, what can we expect now that the 3rd doses of Wuhan spike based vaccines are being rolled out? The Original Antigenic Sin concept tells us that repeated exposure preferentially boosts old antibodies. (More… 3/7
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10 Aug
In below thread immunosuppression was identified as the likely mechanism for the observed ⬆️ risk of COVID during the 1st 14 days post first jab.
A study looking at immunological changes in yellow fever vaccination reported very similar trajectories. tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.10…
1/4
“We found that the numbers of leukocytes sharply declined 7 days after vaccination, increasing back to baseline levels after 14 days. In contrast to primary vaccination, we did not observe a decrease of cell counts after recall vaccination (10 years after primary).” 2/4
The Phase I/II trials of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine also showed this transient immunosuppression. Rather profound effect. nature.com/articles/s4158…
Thanks to @dockaurG for the link.
3/4
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22 Jun
Once again, old science (image to the left) predicts new findings (image to the right). One thing remains common: negligence

Accumulation of nanocarriers in the ovary: A neglected toxicity risk? sciencedirect.com/science/articl…
Reviewed here:
Potential adverse effects of nanoparticles on the reproductive system
dovepress.com/potential-adve…
The literature is full of papers that describe lipid nanoparticles as specific delivery machines of (e.g. anti-cancer) drugs to the ovaries.
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11 May
1/ I have a thread about natural immunity to SARS-CoV-2, but I was asked to do a comparison with vaccine induced immunization. Interestingly, deep analysis of the two is largely missing. A recent study will do the job,
science.sciencemag.org/content/early/…
2/ but we need to focus on results, not conclusions, because even though the study was designed to compare the two types of immunization, plus added the effect of a booster jab on top of infection, the interpretation is a bit twisted to mostly compare the 2 jab scenarios.
3/ Quote:
"Three individuals who previously showed a response, despite lack of laboratory evidence for infection (therefore presumably a cross-reactive response to an endemic human coronavirus) showed an unchanged or decreased [T cell] response to spike after vaccination."
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28 Apr
There’s a curious correlation between countries/regions of high prior SARS2 exposure and a resurgence upon the start of mass V immunization programs. I’ve been thinking a lot about this lately, and the only explanation that could fit observations is… 1/
bmj.com/content/372/bm…
reactivation of dormant viruses in the population. (Seasonal) respiratory viral dormancy has been debated a lot for decades, but there’s still no consensus on where exactly these virions could lay dormant in the body, nor on the trigger(s) & mechanism(s) responsible for… 2/
reactivation. In light of recent research, my (educated?) guess is that the small intestine, and associated immune structures, is more likely place for this to occur than the respiratory tract. Admittedly, this is speculative, but neither implausible nor could I come up with… 3/
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