DSG
The 🐐 of gearboxes.
A thread.
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The 🐐 of gearboxes.
A thread.
#SpaceYaMagari @brokensuit44 @BobWaMagari @esnahmoraa @TsiClub @alexmwanzo @TDIplug @i_am_Derrek
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Conceptualised in 1940s
Used Porsche and Audi race cars in the 80's as PDK
2002 VW introduces DSG to the world with a wet clutch (Clutches immersed in oil) 6AMT in the R32
2008 VW with the 1st dry clutch DSG. compact and lighter for smaller cars
Used Porsche and Audi race cars in the 80's as PDK
2002 VW introduces DSG to the world with a wet clutch (Clutches immersed in oil) 6AMT in the R32
2008 VW with the 1st dry clutch DSG. compact and lighter for smaller cars
The DSG GB is basically 2 gearboxes in 1.
2 clutch sets (K1, K2)
2 drive shafts (S1, S2)
2 gear sets (GO. GE)
1 clutch kit and drive shaft drives the even number gear set, while the other drives odd number set.
The mechatronics unit controls everything the GB does.
2 clutch sets (K1, K2)
2 drive shafts (S1, S2)
2 gear sets (GO. GE)
1 clutch kit and drive shaft drives the even number gear set, while the other drives odd number set.
The mechatronics unit controls everything the GB does.
When in G1, the gb engages G2 but keeps K2 open. Upon instruction, K2 closes to engage G2 while K1 opens and GO engages G3. This greatly reduces shifting times with some systems able to shift gears in 0.01sec in stock set ups and half that when tuned.
The clutch sets have many disks which provides a big friction area allowing high torque applications. A wet clutch DSG in a golf GTI can take >450NM stock, and up to 700NM+ when tuned without hardware change.
It also allows aggressive tunes for acceleration and launching, making it one of the most enjoyable and desirable GBs.
Cars with DSG include:
VW
S- Tronic (Audi)
GTR R35 gearbox
SST in the Evo X
and the holy grail of GBs, the PDK gearbox found in fast Porsches.
Cars with DSG include:
VW
S- Tronic (Audi)
GTR R35 gearbox
SST in the Evo X
and the holy grail of GBs, the PDK gearbox found in fast Porsches.
The 2 main categories are wet clutch and dry clutch, though some minor details may vary b2in brands & generations.
Wet clutch is used for high power/torque applications such as racing, towing and vans. LHS
Dry clutch is used for low torque applications in small light cars. RHS
Wet clutch is used for high power/torque applications such as racing, towing and vans. LHS
Dry clutch is used for low torque applications in small light cars. RHS
Pros:
Power!!!! (Wet clutch)
Unrivalled shift speed
Robust (wet clutch)
Easy maintenance (wet clutch)
Fuel efficiency
Offers the pros of manual and auto transmissions, while avoiding most cons of both
Power!!!! (Wet clutch)
Unrivalled shift speed
Robust (wet clutch)
Easy maintenance (wet clutch)
Fuel efficiency
Offers the pros of manual and auto transmissions, while avoiding most cons of both
Cons:
Needs good cooling
Clutch wear (dry clutch)
Sensitive to heat and strain ( dry clutch)
Frequent service ( dry clutch)
Mechatronics prone to failure (dry clutch)
Need high level skills to work on
Most complaints about DSG within VAG come from the dry clutch units
Needs good cooling
Clutch wear (dry clutch)
Sensitive to heat and strain ( dry clutch)
Frequent service ( dry clutch)
Mechatronics prone to failure (dry clutch)
Need high level skills to work on
Most complaints about DSG within VAG come from the dry clutch units
Verdict:
No other GB offers the combination of torque, shift speed, smoothness, intelligence, flexibility and robustness that the DSG does.
Keep it wet clutch for more peace of mind
Tune it and have fun burning rubber every day
No other GB offers the combination of torque, shift speed, smoothness, intelligence, flexibility and robustness that the DSG does.
Keep it wet clutch for more peace of mind
Tune it and have fun burning rubber every day
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