X : What is web 3.0?
Me : A set of worthwhile experiments being tightly coupled to specific forms of crypto for reasons of greed leading to a dystopian society of excessive control and inequality through decentralisation and "choice" that most will be excluded from.
Me : A set of worthwhile experiments being tightly coupled to specific forms of crypto for reasons of greed leading to a dystopian society of excessive control and inequality through decentralisation and "choice" that most will be excluded from.
X : I thought Web 3.0 was semantic web?
Me : Did you really expect it to be called "More economic slavery for the masses","Neoliberalism a gogo" or "Our next business model is your children"? Web 3.0 gives it more "legitimacy". Tim BL talked about Web 3.0 and so it must be good.
Me : Did you really expect it to be called "More economic slavery for the masses","Neoliberalism a gogo" or "Our next business model is your children"? Web 3.0 gives it more "legitimacy". Tim BL talked about Web 3.0 and so it must be good.
X : The term has been co-opted?
Me : Yep and bundled with a healthy dose of crypto and greed. I would consider the term toxic despite any worthwhile experiments and noble intentions.
X : Will it succeed though?
Me : Will the pursuit of greed lead society along horrendous paths?
Me : Yep and bundled with a healthy dose of crypto and greed. I would consider the term toxic despite any worthwhile experiments and noble intentions.
X : Will it succeed though?
Me : Will the pursuit of greed lead society along horrendous paths?
X : Anyway to fix it?
Me : Sure. Do what China does. Put a few shells through the good ship bitcoin and all who sail in her, preferably before they persuade most pension funds to invest and the changes become impossible to disentangle.
Me : Sure. Do what China does. Put a few shells through the good ship bitcoin and all who sail in her, preferably before they persuade most pension funds to invest and the changes become impossible to disentangle.
X : What about Meta?
Me : I'm all for adapting to a more virtual world. I wrote a report on this - leadingedgeforum.turtl.co/story/on-indus… ... I just want to avoid living in the matrix with Zuckerberg as the architect.
Me : I'm all for adapting to a more virtual world. I wrote a report on this - leadingedgeforum.turtl.co/story/on-indus… ... I just want to avoid living in the matrix with Zuckerberg as the architect.
X : You don't like crypto?
Me : No. I don't like the current forms of crypto. Bitcoin for example is an economic weapon with a payload of laissez faire and delivery mechanism of greed. I haven't liked it for almost a decade - blog.gardeviance.org/2013/11/a-spoi…
Me : No. I don't like the current forms of crypto. Bitcoin for example is an economic weapon with a payload of laissez faire and delivery mechanism of greed. I haven't liked it for almost a decade - blog.gardeviance.org/2013/11/a-spoi…
X : If you had invested in bitcoin then ...
Me : ... I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. I have a defective hypocrisy gene which would normally enable a person to claim that they are an environmentalist by buying a Tesla whilst paying for it through bitcoin investments.
Me : ... I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. I have a defective hypocrisy gene which would normally enable a person to claim that they are an environmentalist by buying a Tesla whilst paying for it through bitcoin investments.
X : Web3 != Web 3.0
Me : Good luck with that. It'll end up meaning exactly what those with large financial investments gain the most advantage from.
Me : Good luck with that. It'll end up meaning exactly what those with large financial investments gain the most advantage from.
X : What is neoliberalism?
Me : It's an idea that all human interactions can be described through transactions combined with a belief that it would a good idea to do so through a market.
Me : It's an idea that all human interactions can be described through transactions combined with a belief that it would a good idea to do so through a market.
X : You're not a fan of neoliberalism?
Me : No. Ignoring the blatant duplicity i.e. transactions are based upon property which is based upon exclusion, so when when someone says "choice" they actually mean "exclusion" ...
Me : No. Ignoring the blatant duplicity i.e. transactions are based upon property which is based upon exclusion, so when when someone says "choice" they actually mean "exclusion" ...
... there is unfortunately no limits or constraints in their thinking. Hence 18th century laissez faire (the goal of neoliberalism) economists argued strongly in favour of slavery - 3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2… ...
... and it wasn't the market that tried to stop that practice but non transactional forms of human activity i.e. Government.
Oh hang on, you think when I said "Our next business model is your children" that I was joking?
I wish.
Oh hang on, you think when I said "Our next business model is your children" that I was joking?
I wish.
X : Are you a communist?
Me : Socialist. I view the market as a useful tool applied in the right contexts. I don't agree with abolition of the market (communists) nor replacement of society by the market (neoliberals). I'm more the Smith / Keynes / Hayek school (non US version).
Me : Socialist. I view the market as a useful tool applied in the right contexts. I don't agree with abolition of the market (communists) nor replacement of society by the market (neoliberals). I'm more the Smith / Keynes / Hayek school (non US version).
X : Why do you have economists at different positions on those lines?
Me : Quite simply, it's the perception of those economists in different regions sticking within Western philosophy.
Me : Quite simply, it's the perception of those economists in different regions sticking within Western philosophy.
X: The references to slavery are uncalled for.
Me : Ok. As long as we recognise that neoliberals argued voiciferously for it. On another note, 600 hours in-game to get an NFT. You thought you were just playing a game and having fun. Web 3.0 in action - kotaku.com/ubisoft-boss-t…
Me : Ok. As long as we recognise that neoliberals argued voiciferously for it. On another note, 600 hours in-game to get an NFT. You thought you were just playing a game and having fun. Web 3.0 in action - kotaku.com/ubisoft-boss-t…
X : So what?
Me : The future you are being conditioned for. At the end, in your very final days, after a lifetime of work ... you too will be able to pass on an image of the hammer of majikthise to your descendants with the words "this is all I have, change the world".
Me : The future you are being conditioned for. At the end, in your very final days, after a lifetime of work ... you too will be able to pass on an image of the hammer of majikthise to your descendants with the words "this is all I have, change the world".
X : So, you're against Web 3.0?
Me : I'm against the neoliberal ideas being baked into this toolchain. As I said, there are some interesting experiments and uses. We just need to seperate them out from this greed driven dystopian future.
Me : I'm against the neoliberal ideas being baked into this toolchain. As I said, there are some interesting experiments and uses. We just need to seperate them out from this greed driven dystopian future.
X : so.. much like Web 2.0 then?
Me : Unfortunately. I more than understand the futility of arguing within the system against the dystopian future of excessive control and inequality that greed will create. Any change will have to come from outside.
Me : Unfortunately. I more than understand the futility of arguing within the system against the dystopian future of excessive control and inequality that greed will create. Any change will have to come from outside.
X : Any ideas?
Me : I'm hopeful that over the next few decades as China far surpasses the West in both economy and technology whilst simultaneously creating a more equal society ... we might be forced to reflect.
Me : I'm hopeful that over the next few decades as China far surpasses the West in both economy and technology whilst simultaneously creating a more equal society ... we might be forced to reflect.
Ah ... what a wonderful, on point, tweet by @jack -
https://twitter.com/jack/status/1473139010197508098
X : China will not create a more equal society.
Me : The thing you need to learn about China is that policies are not aspirations or targets but absolute minimums it expects to far exceed - bbc.co.uk/news/business-… ... same with climate emissions, reduction of poverty etc.
Me : The thing you need to learn about China is that policies are not aspirations or targets but absolute minimums it expects to far exceed - bbc.co.uk/news/business-… ... same with climate emissions, reduction of poverty etc.
China plays a long game with high levels of situational awareness. It is impressive -
https://twitter.com/swardley/status/1473299956744216577
X : Isn't that true everywhere?
Me : What is true?
X : Targets are minimums.
Me : Err .... I don't now how to respond, I'm sort of speechless. The norm is more ... try -
Me : What is true?
X : Targets are minimums.
Me : Err .... I don't now how to respond, I'm sort of speechless. The norm is more ... try -
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1197507130573512704
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