1/ New thread, from the old thread (below). What do you think the average denialist or antivaxxer would have made of polio today, if it came in a 'new' epidemic form (like it did from @ 1890)? The excuses to do absolutely nothing would come thick & fast.
2/ Taxes for a big global eradication? You know as well as I do what the usual denialists & antivaxxers would say.
"But it's always been around! It's everywhere! It's *endemic*!"
And you know what? They would have been right, even though wrong as excuse
3/ Universal vaccinations? Every denialist would scream, "But #polio only kills very few!"
And that was absolutely right, especially before 1920. Polio killed very very few. It crippled many more, but still "only a few".
Do you think the denialists really care about children?
4/ IFR. Here's a quick surprise for you: in only about 0.5% of ALL #polio cases, maybe much less pre-1900, did polio move into the central nervous system. Of that 0.5%, only a tiny fraction of children would die, and only a third at most of adults. **COVID_19 is deadlier.**
5/ W/ polio, we're talking about fractions of 0.5%. That's... tiny, till you have a large population, or if it's you personally. COVID_19 has an IFR of around 0.4% or higher, maybe already 3x the adult IFR of polio. Imagine what the denialists would say about that 'low' risk.
6/ So how come a truly endemic disease, one known by all humans everywhere, stopped being "endemic" (around 1900) and start hitting in big waves, #epidemicity, causing panic all over the USA (& eventual vaccines), and how does this fit in with the invention of the ICU?
and how could polio have a much lower death rate* with just THIS ONE EASY ORGANIC TRICK? Stay tuned to this channel!
{I'll continue later}
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*(spoiler: as long as you accept a *much* higher death rate from typhoid, shigella, amoebiasis etc.)

As said, I'll continue this later, but do you really, *really* believe the denialists & antivaxxers are genuinely concerned for children? Thank heavens this lot weren't around in 1955, we'd still have lots of these...

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24 Dec
1/n And now, the kicker. Want to reduce polio death rates by up to 90% WITH THIS EASY TRICK?
Just make sure your children drink water contaminated with sewage from the minute they're born. Eventually, polio will become endemic again, everyone exposed.

2/n This thread follows on from my old thread, linked below. And it's true; if children drink water contaminated with sewage, in a place where polio exists, death rates will fall by up to 90%, because they'll all have polio before they're 5 years of age

3/n That must appeal to all antivaxxers out there, & those who worship the economy to the point of refusing taxes for new sewage systems.
Just a small drawback: typhoid, typhus, cholera, shigella, amoebiasis, E. coli O157:H7 will all kill FAR more children
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24 Dec
1/n In London, the Great Stink happened. The entire sewer system, such as it was, emptied directly without treatment into the open sewer that was the river Thames. In 1858, for 2 months, the odor became so unbearable that everyone who could remotely afford it fled central London.
2/n Just before the Great Stink, cholera — then a very *new* disease for 99% of the world — also happened in 1854 in London. And so did John Snow (as in the famous John Snow Memorandum johnsnowmemo.com/john-snow-memo…), who just removed a pump handle, & thereby slashed cholera right down.
3/n *Amazingly*, sense happened. Everyone said, we must build better sewers, maybe even better drinking water. And Joseph Bazalgette happened, & got the job of building a new sewer system. Astonishingly, he said "Bugger small limits", & built a system for >10x the then population
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24 Dec
New thread, continuing on from old thread. Next:
just how dangerous IS #polio? And I'm going to give y'all two separate, different answers. First off, we need the difference between CFR & IFR. Because especially with polio, people confuse these.

2/n ➡️ CFR: Case Fatality Ratio.
Out of all the people you document with an infection by a particular bug, how many of them die, the %.

I.e., CFR only measures the percentage of those who die among the infections you *noticed & documented*.
3/n ➡️ IFR: Infection Fatality Ratio
Out of ALL the people who get infected by that particular bug, including ALL the ones you didn't notice or document, what percentage of them cark it?
Read 9 tweets
24 Dec
Apparently @umairh, who's a rather nasty nutcase, wrote the below snippet, in a blog post (eand.co/the-lesson-of-…) that he's now deleted, after virologists laughed at him
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23 Dec
*sigh*
you can have either:
a/ Toby Young really doesn't understand statistics and causality, Example no.# 958,689,
or
b/ Toby Young actively peddles misinformation.
Whichever you prefer. But you must pick one.
oh, I see. At this time, 175 replies under that tweet of Toby Young's, every single reply (not kidding) telling him he's completely misread or wilfully dishonestly misrepresented the stats. He hasn't taken any notice, of course.
Actual report is written by Will Jones "Dr Will Jones is a writer currently focused on countering misinformation around the COVID-19 crisis. He has a PhD in political philosophy & a BSc in mathematics, ... an MA in ethics .. a diploma in theology."
At least 3 degrees wasted.
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