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facebook's fraud lawsuit for inflating its claimed reach for advertisers just posted 95 files (3,646 pages!) - including a lot of the evidence dcn pushed to unseal. includes internal email threads behind prior claims. looks damning. will link to prior threads in a bit. /1
In the thousands of pages, we learn Publicis in France was especially concerned suggesting clients significantly reduce spend leading to their largest client, P&G, supposedly ceasing all spend. They estimated differences of 40-50% in claimed reach vs census in certain targets. /2
We also see Alex Schultz (now CMO) breaking down the source of inflated reach which follow-up docs show he accurately assessed as mostly due to #2 - lying about age and #3 - fake and duplicate accounts. Both listed as "millions" of the inflation... /3
a reminder, this issue surfaced from a press report, caused a flurry of emails by COO, CFO, CMO, etc (now unsealed) where decision was made not to inform investors. That's why a top Senator wrote letter last week and it's part of a SEC complaint, too. Will link in a minute. /4
Back to the docs, we learned there was special sensitivity around "SUMA" (single user multiple accounts) which Schultz indicates wasn't part of the press cycles and that was considered important. Later internal analysis suggested SUMA was 40% of the inflated #s. /5
We also learn "Ineligible Accounts" was considered a massive contributor to inflated reach. How much is still redacted so we're left with an engineer's note of 15-50%. Reminder, Facebook dismisses all of this as "potential reach" that doesn't matter as they don't bill on it. /6
But on that note, smoking gun, we have an internal document that very clearly states why Facebook's reach estimation matters. Even in the case of direct response advertisers buying on clicks, they say it matters. For brand advertisers, it's arguably the most important metrics. /7
there are hundreds of pages of internal debates by emails and slides and chat threads whether Facebook should stop claiming potential reach of "people" and move back to calling them "accounts" in order to avoid what has been said to be fraud (hence this lawsuit). /8
there is also considerable expert analysis of Facebook's inflated reach. One document is nearly 1,000 pages and this chart caught my attention. I imagine it will catch yours, too. Quarter 18 is when Cambridge Analytica broke wide open and Zuckerberg was first called to DC. /9
As someone who has recently experienced Facebook deceptively working to keep me from deleting my account and instead keeping it "inactive," the numbers of inactives being counted towards an inflated reach number is all sorts of suspect. Here is the table for the data. /10
the expert's 923 pages take a variety of data sources to model facebook's inflated reach by country and demographic building to the larger numbers. it's remarkable the SEC and/or independent auditors don't do this to all their data considering prior incidents with FB. /11
We also see again how Carolyn Everson played role to have a council of advertisers "ready on our behalf' with press. Everson is same super senior executive who recently left after other unsealed emails showed her waving a flag of concern over this issue. /12
on a side note, I would also love to see redactions like this considering Facebook claims it doesn't have underage users on FB and Instagram (because "they're not allowed") when this clearly shows they stick to what the user tells them "for a ton of reason"..ahem, legal. /13
press should dig into these new files - happy to help act as a guide. it's critical facebook have external accountability probing the integrity of its #s. here is a thread of prior information summarizing them. /14
and again, here is a direct link to prior unsealed emails including a senior executive matching point that there is no question inflated reach estimations impacted budgets including for small and medium-sized marketers. /15
Here is @SenWarren's letter to the SEC on this concern from just two weeks ago. I frankly don't why there haven't been hearings launched over it. I've long called for a longitudinal audit of Facebook's user accounts. warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/… /16
and here is the complaint to the SEC from Facebook whistleblower (ht @FrancesHaugen). /17 drive.google.com/file/d/1KOytDp…

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Jan 21
Woah. Sheryl Sandberg, former COO of Facebook, just sanctioned by Delaware judge for deleting emails ahead of trial this spring. This is the state pension shareholder case alleging the company overpaid the FTC and SEC in $5B+ settlements in order to protect Zuckerberg. /1 Image
Long after the books had been inspected and many lawsuits had played out, it was disclosed last year she had a personal Gmail account under a pseudonym that may have been used for relevant communications. /2 Image
The Judge here calls her a "high sophisticated individual." He probably doesn't know about the 2018 NYT report on how she carved out these issues in her Senate Intel testimony or how their lawyers were sanctioned on related discovery in California. /3 Image
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Jan 16
wow. This AI lawsuit against Facebook keeps getting worse as they reluctantly unseal documents on Court orders.
Check out this allegation. Not only two hrs before discovery cut-off but the Friday before we now know Mark Zuckerberg was deposed... /1 Image
Here is the bit from the newly filed and now unsealed third amended complaint. Allegations here Facebook used torrenting to download a pirated dataset to train LLaMA thereby also "seeding" pirated content globally. This is a BFD. /2 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…Image
In fact, it can be criminal so this count is in the third amended complaint and the state attorney general (hello, @AGRobBonta) should note these allegations here. As it relates to this case, it may also break their privilege claims since it alleged to further a crime. /3 Image
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Jan 14
wow. Upon Court order, incriminating exhibits were unsealed at 3:30am in an AI lawsuit against Meta. Once past a 'fake privilege,' it appears Zuckerberg approved the use of a highly controversial, pirated dataset.
Note OpenAI, too? AI companies with no ethics or guardrails. /1 Image
Here they acknowledge risk in media coverage, and massive EU fines, if "we have used a dataset we know to be pirated." So then you ask yourself the question, did they actually know it was pirated and use it? I uploaded docs - . /2 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…Image
To that question, here is how the internal project manager describes the dataset. Note the line (these are all my yellow highlights), "when sourced from copyrighted materials without the permission of copyright holders." /3 Image
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Jan 8
woah. This Friday? Too much moving on court dockets so I will surface for you. This matters, in this mega-Facebook case, as highly respected Chenault was Chairman of Facebook's board during its biggest scandals. WSJ reported he left board after disagreements with Zuckerberg. /1 Image
Here is the report on his departure, it includes reports of disagreements with Peter Thiel, too, over elections policies and "clashes" over moderation policies.
Btw, highly relevant to the last 24hrs of news. /2 wsj.com/articles/chena…Image
Moving on, Zuckerberg has also been noticed for deposition after "alleged wrongdoing on a truly colossal scale." He was already deposed last month in Hawaii for 7hrs. I would expect SEC closely compares transcripts to their 2019 depo which @zamaan_qureshi managed to unseal. /3 Image
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Dec 31, 2024
The secret deal (aka "Project Jedi Blue") between Google and Facebook has finally been unsealed in district court tonight. Link in text tweet. /1 Image
Here is a link to the full 48 pages of the agreement. /2 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…
Here is how NYT reported it in the complaint. Google and Facebook suggested it was misrepresented. Their proxies have misled public into thinking it was dismissed from lawsuit despite Google's CEO being deposed about it only months ago. /3 nytimes.com/2021/01/17/tec…
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Dec 31, 2024
woah. ~300 redacted summary judgment google exhibits posted in TX. I've uploaded all. most eye-popping - we finally get Google-Facebook contract (aka Jedi Blue) alleged as bid rigging (yes, press was misled, it's still part of the claims). /1 Image
If you need a definition for Match Rate, Google and Facebook include it with example of using the "encrypted blob" on mobile, feels very much like a fingerprint y'all. Here is the full contract, don't sleep on section dealing with monopoly enforcement. /2 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…Image
There are a ton of new exhibits from discovery with similar themes of Google secretly using projects to manipulate its black box auctions. "The first rule of Bernanke is we don't talk about Bernanke." /3 Image
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