Thread by @truthunveilled

Not sure if you know what you are reading. Anyways, do tell us what is the مراد of الإرتفاع when Imam Tabari mentions it?

Is the Murad إرتفاع المكانية, إرتفاع الصلطانية or what is it?

https://twitter.com/IbrahimIbnMahm2/status/1474525134702661632

The reason for this question is, due to the following point:

ربيت هذا الولد بيدي

I raised this child with my hands.

NOTE: This is not to discuss any specific Sifah of Allah, moreover is it about the Murad what one person makes.

In the above example, we know what Yadayy means and we know I am talking about hands > which are body parts (but this is not the point). However, what is my Murad when I make this statement?

My Murad with this is, that I raised this kid personally myself.

Let's apply the same principle with saying Allah is above.

One can say:

يد الله فوق أيديهم

or

هو فوق العرش and then state يعني هو عليه

The mere mentioning of the term على is giving an synonymous effect.

But what difference did it make?

Statement 1:

Allah is above the Arsh

explanation:

Meaning: He is above it

This is still not clarifying the Murad for us and it remains upon that which has been passed down by the Shariah to us, upon which we debate.

If I made something unclear, please do ask me!

The same for the first Ayah I used:

Allah's hand is above their hands.

Yani: It is above it.

*What is meant by this phrase is the question that remains*

This is why, the citing Imam Tabaris statement where he states about Istawa meaning rose above, not being enough to tell us if it is المكانية أو صلطانية thats why I am asking you now what you understand from it.

https://twitter.com/Alminhaji/status/1474572217845436421?t=t4ecXQgRFXtbDhNTTL-KIg&s=19

We go into the Tafsili once you go into the Tafsili. And this is what we have held for centuries. They (early generations) did not go into the Tafsil of things as there was no need for it and no groups of deviance had risen.

As long as you do not go into Tafsil we say

الله أعلم

You also highlighted a section where Imam Tabari discusses the different opinions on the word العلي When you look above that section, look at the opinion he himself holds not what others say.