I have actually taken the time to make a spreadsheet with the proposal for the excise reform proposal. My spreadsheet shows me that an average bottle based on 13.5% would cost the consumer £0.69 per bottle more based on all other costs remaining the same.
If that bottle has just 1% more ABV at 14.5% then the price increase per bottle is £1.03. Again with no other fix costs changing. Moreover the reduction on Fizz has almost no effect on the retail prices. There would be no benefit to the consumer.
So once again in the cold light of day this wonderful proposal from @RishiSunak is based on nothing but hot air. Higher prices for consumers, no gain on tax revenues, but an unworkable regime for the actual importers.
You do then have to ask the question, why is he doing this. We know he’s a non drinker, maybe he wants everyone to copy him and stop drinking wine by make it impossible to ship and if you manage that too expensive to buy! Either way #stoprishi#wine excise reform.
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Hey @RishiSunak can you explain to the world how moving from 4 levels (bands) of wine taxation to 26 levels (your proposal) is simplifying the excise system. Would really like to know. Maybe I am missing something because seems more complicated. So don’t be shy guy, let us know.
Hey me again @RishiSunak. Looking like 112,000 people would like you to answer this question or do I have to get @CPJElmore to do it in Parliament. Be a good egg and answer the question.
When is duck not a duck? Below is the proposal from government for #wine excise reform. Read very carefully bullet point 3. Its very cleverly written and designed to confuse.
It would seem the drinks industry is not shouting loudly enough about the ridiculous excise reform announcement back in October. As I have already said serval times the proposal from government is frankly bollocks.
It would seem to me that the proposal was opened to the trade to object because the government knows there proposal is unworkable. They know Chief/CDS would not cope with 26 tax brackets. But rather than doing their job they want the industry to do the job for them.
Moreover called the proposal a Brexit dividend clearly shows you that they have nothing, nothing at all. This reform could have been done at anytime in the past 40 years. So to be blunt it’s got fuck all to do with Brexit. It is however a great chance to gaslight.
So over the past three days some journalists made up a story about pint sized champagne bottles. Not wine journalists (they actually tell the truth and do a fantastic job so the public can be educated), no your regular mainstream journalists.
Now why is this remotely important? It’s important because it’s so irrelevant. These journalists didn’t have anything to put in their papers so decided to create a story which is utter bollocks. Now they know most people know very little about wine.
So on that basis you can write whatever you like & most people will believe it because it’s in the paper. Problem is if there doing that on something that doesn’t really matter you have to ask the question. What bollocks are they making up on the important shit that does matter?
We are now twelve months in with Brexit and some media outlets have been in contact to see if everything is as bad I said it would be. Here is my final thread on the reality of Brexit after 12 months and what’s coming in 2022. 1/19
Since Brexit started excise goods (Alcohol, Cigarettes, other taxed goods) have been subject to the full Brexit regulations and checks that 95% of all other goods have not had to worry about in 2021. 2/19
Therefore the wine industry is very aware of the problems that everyone else will face in just 8 days from now. Moreover it’s why we are nearly fully stocked going into January but had to start that process back in October. 3/19
This week saw the tories announcement of major changes to the way alcohol taxation system will work from Feb ‘23. At first the hype created by the treasury’s PR department was like they has reinvented the wheel. What they had actually done was pull a major con on the public. 1/14
The proposal to reduce and remove sparkling wine super tax will cost the U.K. £119m PA approximately, however the new still wine taxes will yield an extra £4.5BN. But the system from an importation point of view will not be workable. 2/14
Currently their are three main tax codes for duty on wine, 411,413 & 415. These are the bands from 8.5% to 22% and sparkling wine in its own band. Most still wine is tax at £2.23 per 75cl bottle and £2.86 for sparkling. Above 15% still is £2.96. 3/14
Right now I have seen the duty changes it’s clear this not good news. Most still wines especially new world range at 13% to 15%. So in effect these will not only be more difficult to declare but certainly more expensive with at least 50p on a bottle before vat.
The for fizz these mostly come down but again your find that most fizz is around 12.5%. So the reduction here is considerably less that the increase on Still wines.
Now when you look at actually sales of all wine still out sells fizz around 4 to 1. I am sure someone will quote the exact difference. So in actual fact the wine trade has just seen a massive increase across the board on what people actually consume.