In February I've been invited to an event about night trains to/from Berlin...

... so today I started to wonder what runs, and what could run in future

Berlin Hbf pic source: flickr.com/photos/3093297…
My criteria for future routes: it'd have to be doable with a 200km/h locomotive hauled night train, and that locomotive would need ETCS

Something like this:
railjournal.com/locomotives/ra…
What night trains does Berlin have already?

NightJet 456 / 457
Berlin - Wroclaw 🇵🇱 - Wien 🇦🇹 (- Graz 🇦🇹 in summertime)

EN 40457 / 40476
Berlin - Wroclaw 🇵🇱 - Bratislava 🇸🇰 - Budapest 🇭🇺
NightJet 470 / 471
Berlin - Freiburg(Breisgau) 🇩🇪 - Basel 🇨🇭 - Zürich 🇨🇭

Snälltåget 300 / 301
Berlin - Hamburg 🇩🇪 - København 🇩🇰 - Malmö 🇸🇪 - Stockholm 🇸🇪 (seasonal)
What is planned?

Summer 2022
European Sleeper
Bruxelles 🇧🇪 - Amsterdam 🇳🇱 - Berlin - Praha 🇨🇿

December 2023
Berlin - Mannheim 🇩🇪 (train splits)
One part: Köln 🇩🇪 - Liège 🇧🇪 - Bruxelles 🇧🇪
Other part: Saarbrücken 🇩🇪 - Metz 🇫🇷 - Paris 🇫🇷
What has been floated as an idea?

Re-routing of the Wien night train via Praha - so:
Berlin - Dresden 🇩🇪 - Praha 🇨🇿 - Brno 🇨🇿 - Wien 🇦🇹 (could also extend to Budapest 🇭🇺)
But then - and this is where it gets interesting - what could work, in terms of times and operations?

Hamburg 🇩🇪 - Berlin - Poznan 🇵🇱 (train splits)
One part: Warszawa 🇵🇱 - Bialystok 🇵🇱 (even Kaunas 🇱🇹)
Other part: Krakow 🇵🇱 - Przemysl 🇵🇱
Berlin - Hamburg 🇩🇪 - Flensburg 🇩🇪 - København 🇩🇰 - Malmö 🇸🇪 - Göteborg 🇸🇪

Berlin - Halle 🇩🇪 - Erfurt 🇩🇪 - Strasbourg 🇫🇷 - Mulhouse 🇫🇷 - Besançon 🇫🇷 - Lyon 🇫🇷
Berlin - Halle 🇩🇪 - Erfurt 🇩🇪 - Innsbruck 🇦🇹 - Verona 🇮🇹 (and continuing to Bologna 🇮🇹, Milano 🇮🇹 or Venezia 🇮🇹)

Berlin - Halle 🇩🇪 - Erfurt 🇩🇪 - Salzburg 🇦🇹 - Villach 🇦🇹 - Ljubljana 🇸🇮 - Zagreb or Rijeka 🇭🇷
And a further Wien route...

Berlin - Salzburg 🇦🇹 - Linz 🇦🇹 - Wien 🇦🇹
Please note the limits here: I have simply aimed to work out viable routes and timetables. I do not know the market potential of these, and indeed finding anyone to run them would be harder still

But take these as *what's possible*
I will publish all my workings in due course, and the more detailed theoretical timetables, but the summary is this:
4️⃣ routes exist
2️⃣ are planned to launch
7️⃣ more would be feasible, in terms of operations and timetables

/ends
P.S. Paris-Berlin-Moscow is not covered here - it was suspended due to COVID. But it transits Belarus. So due to the political situation I doubt it will return swiftly after the pandemic abates…

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with Jon Worth

Jon Worth Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @jonworth

Jan 14,
Just been deutsched in the ICE for... typing too loudly
And to those going “different people perceive sound differently”. Sure. I know.

But different people solve problems differently too. Train was max 10% full. Perhaps if you’re annoyed by something like typing, you move, instead of asking *me* to move (what the passenger did).
Am I weird in that I often move to other seats in trains? So as to be further from passengers I find annoying? (And I mean really annoying. Not just people typing.)
Read 5 tweets
Jan 9,
Musing…

Could triggering Article 16 be the lever to trigger a Tory leadership election?

Bear with me…

It’s based on Truss’s Telegraph piece today
telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/01/0…
Truss can sort of talk to Sefcovic in the coming few weeks, make little or no progress, and confront Johnson with an ultimatum in February: the EU won’t budge (probably on ECJ issue) so we should trigger Article 16.
(Set aside whether this threat to trigger will work in practical terms towards the EU - that’s not what it’s for. It’s a kind of back me or sack me play by Truss. It’s not intended to actually *happen*)
Read 8 tweets
Jan 8,
OK, now v2 of my visit every border in the EU (and EFTA added too!) you can cross by train is now ready!

And the route is split into roughly 3 equal parts, start/end in Berlin each time
The whole route is on Google Maps here:
google.com/maps/d/viewer?…

And Spredsheet detail here (you might have to click V2):
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d…
This totals

138 trains
18 bike legs
1 buses
1 taxi
1 ferry

52 border crossings
Read 6 tweets
Jan 8,
A quick thread about Deutsche Bahn scrapping InterCity ⚡️ locomotives - as this issue has started to get some public debate

It concerns DB sending class 101 and class 120 locomotives for scrap

Pic 1 from @railcolor, pics 2 and 3 from @lokfuehrer_tim
The starting point is not the locomotives themselves

It is Deutsche Bahn's strategy as to how its long distance passenger trains should be run

Basically they no longer want this

Source: flickr.com/photos/5589904…
And instead want a more standardised product - these

Sources:
flickr.com/photos/1354874…
flickr.com/photos/1445074…
flickr.com/photos/1445074…
Read 12 tweets
Jan 7,
The border area Slovenia-Croatia-Hungary is fascinating for railway connections - many that don't work properly... due to neglect, politics, Schengen, history, lack of investment...
From the north in Hungary, Rédics used to connect to Lendava, but doesn't now. And Lendava can only be reached from the rest of the Slovenian rail network via Čakovec in Croatia

Čakovec to Nagykanizsa seems to have no passenger trains currently
Meanwhile the fastest Ljubljana-Budapest would probably route through Čakovec too, but instead goes via Hodoš, so as to avoid running through Croatia (and probably because the infra is ropey on the Croatian section)
Read 5 tweets
Jan 4,
Yesterday I completed my first draft of a route that crosses all border pairs in the EU that can be traversed by train.

But some of the border crossings have been nagging at me, and I need your help...

The original rationale, and the maps and tables are in this thread 👇
🇱🇹🇱🇻
Am I right there is no train north of Šiauliai, and no train south of Jelgava?

80km between the two... So I assume I am going to need a bus there? Is there a way via Vilnius and Daugavpils instead?

@moritzkraehe @briedisunrepshe Image
🇩🇰🇩🇪
While Fehmarn is being rebuilt, the route from Kbh westwards via Odense to Kolding is obvious. But what then?

Standard route south via Padborg? Or via Tønder-Niebüll?

@NiChNi @jacobchr @SorenHave
Read 14 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Too expensive? Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal

Or Donate anonymously using crypto!

Ethereum

0xfe58350B80634f60Fa6Dc149a72b4DFbc17D341E copy

Bitcoin

3ATGMxNzCUFzxpMCHL5sWSt4DVtS8UqXpi copy

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us on Twitter!

:(