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Jan 20 7 tweets 3 min read
1/ Peloton's predicament is an opportunity to practice your unit economics skills.

"Average net monthly connected fitness churn, which Peloton uses to measure retention of connected fitness subscribers, ticked up to 0.73% from 0.52% a year earlier." cnbc.com/amp/2021/08/26…
2/ Gross Margin: 32.6%

Bill Gurley: "There is a huge difference between companies with high gross margins and those with lower gross margins. Using the DCF framework, you cannot generate much cash from a revenue stream that is saddled with large, variable costs."
3/ Assume to keep the math simple that Peloton ARPU is $39 a month. How high can customer acquisition cost (CAC) be and generate 10% ROIC? Remember, any equipment subsidy is part of CAC.

You are "solving for" CAC. Invert!

Extra credit: estimate unaddressed TAM & CAC impact.
4/ TAM is hard to determine since it requires predictions about the future.

If you encounter someone who claims you can value a stock without making predictions about the future, RUN!!!

Seth Klarman: "You must predict the future, yet the future is not reliably predictable.”
5/ Simba: "Is TAM best thought of as a probability distribution with a range of possible outcomes?

Mufasa: "Exactly. But there are clues. For example, a rising CAC is a sign you are starting to reach a TAM ceiling. Everything is connected in the Great Circle of Unit Economics."
6/ Simba: "So Peloton can be valued on a per subscriber bottoms up basis like a cable or mobile operator?"

Mufasa: "Any business can be valued that way. The sum of the value of all present and future customers is equal to the value of the business. As Rza often says: 'CREAM.'"
7/ Simba: "I've heard you say you have a feel for how unit economics factors interact."

Mufasa: "We have instrumented our processes and hired data scientists for a reason. Any CBCV variable can kill you. For example, ignoring what happens below the gross margin line is deadly."

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Jan 16
1/ Understanding why SpaceX's Starlink constellation currently has ~1,800 active and soon to be active satellites and the OneWeb constellation currently has fewer requires that you examine the inherent trade offs given the physics of wireless and how that impacts unit economics.
2/ OneWeb's higher orbit means fewer satellites and gateways are required to cover the Earth and this reduces system costs, but higher orbit translates to a worse link budget which means the signal isn't as strong as in lower orbit. To learn more: itu.int/en/ITU-R/space…
3/ "I don't care" you say. "When do I get the Starlink terminal I ordered?" The issue usually for people in the northern US now is capacity not coverage. There's only so much capacity in a cell and it is shared. Will capacity increase over time? Yes, but it is not unlimited.
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Jan 15
1/ In the new Infinite Loops podcast I explain why Gates and Allen saw more in the microprocessor than Intel. They wanted to solve a personal problem. Paying for computer access via a timeshare was $40 an hour in 1970s dollars. They wanted to own a computer at a low fixed price.
2/ Bill Gates told a Financial Times writer in 1988: "Intel themselves did not understand the importance of the advance they had made in building the microprocessor. Paul Allen and I wrote to Intel to tell them what an unbelievable device they had created.  That was in 1974."
3/ "The last time Jim Manzi and I really talked at length was at the PS/2 introduction in April 1987.  Jim was saying to me, 'Bill your company is fully valued.  And I said to him, 'Jim, you’re right.' You know it is fully valued!” Forbes, December 7, 1992

Prediction is hard.
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Jan 15
1/ Seeing this chart of NASDAQ 100 from 2000-02 made me think about a time in my life when we were in triage mode trying to keep businesses from dying. Some people were trading then, but our focus was on actual businesses running short of runway (eg cash).ritholtz.com/2022/01/living… Image
2/ The funding environment from 2000 to 2002 was in a state where assets of a business would sometimes not produce the ability to generate enough cash to get though a valley of death. Just one example was Nextel as this chart illustrates. I hope you never see a time like this. Image
3/ Control of XO Communications was up for grabs (if you had cash, which was rare at that time, you could gain control of companies in Chapter 11). We had to decide whether to try to gain control of XO or double down on Nextel. We correctly chose Nextel and avoided that battle.
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Jan 14
1/ Me: "My worst nightmare is somebody I love is in trouble and I can’t help them. That’s the point of having money. That’s the point of having strength. That’s the point of preparing yourself. I’m always ready to do that, because I couldn’t live with him myself if I couldn't."
2/ "Start a company, you've got to be brave. Write a book, you've got to be brave. Paint that painting behind you, you've got to be brave. You must be willing to say: 'This is my painting.'"

There is a transcript of this podcast that is out today at: infiniteloopspodcast.com/tren-griffin-w…
3/ "If you give children opportunities to make mistakes and do things, they will be independent. When they go to college and through life, they're going to make great decisions. If you truly love them, do that. The downside is they're not going to call you often. Do it anyway."
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Jan 11
1/ Most fun for me is an operating business. In a business you don't have the luxury of no cash flow planning or not understanding return on capital in addition to growth of NTM sales. Pretend proxies for that can only be ignored until they can't. Only unforgivable sin = no cash. Image
2/ Charlie Munger: “We have the same problem as everyone else: It’s very hard to predict the future."

Seth Klarman: "An unresolvable contradiction exists: to perform present value analysis, you must predict the future, yet the future is not reliably predictable."
3/ When I hear: "We can't do a DCF because the results can vary," I know that the person: 1) has not run a real business; 2) doesn't know how to run a business; or 3) knows but is pretending it doesn't matter.

If running a real business was easy, everyone would be wealthy.
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Jan 4
1/ Is Sweetgreen selling a subscription or is it instead a membership program?

Is there a difference? Does Costco sell a subscription ?
amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/01/03…
2/ One of my 25iQ blog posts is about a meal service provided by Rovco which enables its customers to have fresh bass delivered to them twice a week. A Bass-o-Matic subscription service creates an obligation to purchase delicious bass, not just a discount. 25iq.com/2018/01/20/sup…
3/ A subscription is at its core an arrangement with a customer that creates a periodic contractual commitment. 25iq.com/2018/08/11/how…

If a consumer uses a loyalty card or a mobile app to pay is that a subscription?

Is paying for time limited discount card a subscription?
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