Curious to see how the expert really did ?
Expert : Anyone who who gets myocarditis post vaxx Wld have had it way worse If they had instead got COVID.
This is a theory countered by multiple data sets that show in young men, vaxx > Covid myocarditis 1/
Expert : Anyone who who gets myocarditis post vaxx Wld have had it way worse If they had instead got COVID.
This is a theory countered by multiple data sets that show in young men, vaxx > Covid myocarditis 1/
https://twitter.com/joshzepps/status/1486213462816866304
Next, expert notes Covid mortality in the young is 1/1000. He’s corrected by a sharp @joshzepps that the # is actually 1/10000 (500/5mil) & that 5 mil is prob an undercount.
So @joshzepps facts check his expert live to combat misinformation from expert 😂 2/
So @joshzepps facts check his expert live to combat misinformation from expert 😂 2/
When @joshzepps brings up recent study in Nature from Oxford that shows higher rates of myocarditis with vaxx than COVID in young men specifically, Expert discounts this..saying Israeli data is better. He’s referring to this paper by Barda et al. In Sep 2021 which does show ⬆️ 3/
But he doesn’t mention that a study published one month later in the same Journal also from Israel that stratified rates of myocarditis by age / sex, shows young vaxxed men have ~9x the rate of myocarditis as unvaxxed 4/
He also doesn’t mention a host of other studies that have found the same signal.. there’s the UK, Oxford data, JAMA data that shows no ⬆️ in myocarditis rates until 2.2021, and CDC/JAMA data that shows high rates in young males 5/
This is why there other countries that have paused use of the Moderna vaccine specifically for young men.. in October .. 6/
Expert comments on broader benefit of vaccinating young ppl, citing lower chance of getting future more lethal mutations , and reducing transmitting to high risk.
Both are contentious claims where experts in the field disagree and r well outside the cardiology wheelhouse! 7/
Both are contentious claims where experts in the field disagree and r well outside the cardiology wheelhouse! 7/
There’s a lot more to say about the topic of myocarditis regarding severity, other cardiac effects, etc.. But what shouldn’t be really emotional or politicized is that there are vaccines on the market with widely differing rates of myocarditis .. 8/
And as is noted by many of the researchers writing these papers this data Shld at a minimum prompt evaluation of different options to what is currently available for healthy young men/boys… AZ/JNJ perhaps, or 1 dose, or delaying 2nd dose 9/
This adverse event should definitely be part of the conversation on vaccine mandates, and as I found out from talking to @eekymom , our vaccine injury compensation system that shields vaxx manufacturers from liability isn’t working 10/
https://twitter.com/anish_koka/status/1486696305242132492
@joshzepps seems like a really smart, nice guy, and I agree with his tweet here .. covid has been a lesson in epistemic humility for me as well 11/
https://twitter.com/joshzepps/status/1486213465983557633
Agree here as well, though not sure if this really turned out the way Josh wanted.. 12/
https://twitter.com/joshzepps/status/1486213469540356098
Like the 1st part about non mrna for boys, though in the US the only non mrna vaccine approved isn’t available for anyone < 18.. so hope ppl can understand some of the passion around mandates.
The 2nd part, not so much, more in depth dive coming for the 5 ppl interested .. 13/
The 2nd part, not so much, more in depth dive coming for the 5 ppl interested .. 13/
https://twitter.com/joshzepps/status/1486213484203642880
Video version of the above here : cc @Accad_Koka
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