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Feb 2 14 tweets 3 min read
ok, I'm here. Facebook earnings. Since they're getting clobbered, I expect they'll talk a lot about shiny new things and blame underperformance on "competition" as because any pressure on growth will be used as a defense for their antitrust lawsuits with state AGs and FTC. /1
drinking game for 5pm, have a drink every time Mark, Sheryl or Dave use a derivative of the word "compete." Pace yourselves. /2
This is the FUD section still as I pointed out Q2 last year. Just in case anyone wants to ask Facebook to finally disclose arguably the most important metric to their ads business and 97%+ of their revenues. /3
Or maybe this thread a year ago is better. ps it appears Zuckerberg's word of the day is "competition" and Sandberg's is "headwinds." /4
Another thread on the underlying dynamic. There are movements in California, FTC, Congress, Brussels/EU, UK, Australia, Germany all putting pressure on this on top of changes by Google and Apple. And almost no one trusts Facebook on these matters. /5
When the CFO says "monitoring the viability of transatlantic data transfers" he's not noting they've been found it violation at multiple levels. And in a separate lawsuit in NdCal, Facebook is arguing it can't even disclose all of a user's data which is sort of a BIG problem. /6
transition here. Facebook and its "friendly" analysts call your privacy, "signal loss." CFO just said it will cost them $10 billion in the next year. /7
Holy $&%^, Facebook's CFO just threw a major punch at Apple and Google in one sentence which has no chance in hell in landing. /8
It sounds like Zuckerberg is just freewheeling here between talking points and making very little sense. This is bad. /9
Sandberg just said the most impressive compilation of word salad in the history of earnings calls to reframe how privacy enforcement against Facebook's surveillance to suggest it's hurting small business. I'll find it later. Amusing to me. /10
Which word has Facebook said more frequently on their earnings call? (I'll calculate later but my $ is on "headwinds"): /11
the CFO, the same one who chose not to disclose on an earnings call that they were inflating potential reach, just offered a very unfulfilling answer to explain their estimate of a $10B "headwind" to revenue from apple's privacy changes. Why not say what % of users opt out?? /12
As CEO Mark Zuckerberg plays prophet as to the shift to video and virtual, a reminder in 2015 he said, "five years to all video" and then were later sued for fraud due to a massive metrics issue inflating this "pivot to video" story. /13 niemanlab.org/2018/10/did-fa…
Here is a thread with some audio and the answer to the poll. We were all right. Headwinds won it. By a landslide.

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Feb 4
Two things on the advertising market: (1) over many years, we established two companies (google/facebook) took most of the growth (“duopoly”) leading now to significant legislation and enforcement. They’ve long had talking points fed thru allies to spin scrutiny in order to… /1
try to dilute the point: a) “not globally!” (then they include China where they mostly don’t do business), b) “some of that is gross and we share it!” (ignoring the control of the $ flow and terms of trade go thru them), c) more recently, “it’s a tripololy! look at Amazon!”… /2
on the last point, Amazon finally broke out ad revenues of $35 billion. The duopoly were $325 billion last year. Amazon has too much market power and they’re leveraging for ad $, too. But let’s be clear, they don’t compete or weaken the lawsuits around google or Facebook. /3
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Feb 3
After listening to Facebook’s earnings a second time because a $270B drop in valuation deserves it, a few things stood out to me. First, the CFO, who I’ve been saying for 18 months needs to be clearer about their kneecapping, said the word “headwinds” 25 times so it’s a start. /1
Second, I’m seeing too much focus on flat/drop of Daily Active Users. Yes, that’s new but it’s their loss in ability to microtarget users as they’re opting out of tracking (iOS) plus CA and EU privacy laws are catching up to them that kneecaps their surveillance biz model. /2
Let’s listen in to their earnings a bit here. Here is the CFO during Q&A talking through some of the “headwinds” related to iOS and he also sort of mentions they may not be able to transfer data across the Atlantic any more (Schrems II). /3
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Feb 1
Meanwhile in 9th circuit - case where discovery has been ordered for Zuckerberg+Sandberg related to Cambridge cover-up, along with a lot of sensitive discovery... Facebook is losing A LOT lately. FB has been arguing users' data isn't retrievable because...it's everywhere... /1
Facebook has been trying to avoid turning over its' "Secret Sauce Report", including now all iterations of the living document, since June 2020. /2
Again, Court seems to be rightly getting impatient. These deadlines issued last night are for tomorrow. /3
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Feb 1
OK, I'm listening to Google's earnings. If they don't get a single question about state AGs charges of collusion and market rigging with Facebook - including newly unsealed internal messages at both companies - then the entire analyst Q&A is a complete joke. /1
By the way, yes, I already layered in the Google advertising numbers from the earnings tonight and never fear - I know you were worried - the swallowing of the advertising market by Google continued last year. /2
yoo-hoo, I mean he's literally on the earnings call. He signed the deal with Sheryl Sandberg at Facebook. Seems like a question but what do I know? Don't poke the bear. /3
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Feb 1
woah, I missed this. F*%&ing crazy. This NYT report is that, according to a presentation they reviewed, Peter Thiel - forever board member of Facebook - Founders Fund invested in a company that could hack into WhatsApp? Do I have that right? He's a remarkable board member. /1
A good time to remind that the NYT also reported Peter Thiel backed Clearview AI - the company that claimed according to reports to have scraped 3 billion images from Facebook for surveillance purposes. /2
And of course, there is still Palantir, co-founded by Peter Thiel, that - you guessed it - the NYT reported had people who helped Cambridge Analytica scrape its data. Thiel is defendant in shareholder derivative lawsuits since he's both on the board and co-founded Palantir. /3
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Jan 28
Oh dear, Facebook filed its motion to dismiss for the Delaware shareholder suit I called the "mother of all lawsuits" because it includes charges of insider trading and governance failures related to Cambridge Analytica cover-up. I still think it may bring Facebook down. /1
I find this amusing. In a number of places in its response to the court, Facebook argues there was a failure to allege "red flags." How would the board even know that there were "red flags????" /2
I mean subpoenas from state AGs all over the country, the Federal Trade Commission and international governments wouldn't necessarily indicate anything, right? /3
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