@AndrewOrlowski Evasive answer to Iain Collin's simple questions from Bob Ward.
Ward is always so defensive and aggressive, out of the gate.
Calm and reasonable opening argument from Andrew. Bob shouting over him.
Andrew argues that demonisation of shale gas has led to us paying up to 10 times more than the USA.
Bob, ranting, says that it can't work in the UK because the european market will take it away.
But European countries banned domestic gas production too.
Bob, ranting, says that it can't work in the UK because the european market will take it away.
But European countries banned domestic gas production too.
Bob accuses Andrew of 'smirking'. Such a nasty little grunt.
Bob doubles down on the alarmist rhetoric.
Andrew counters that Ward's apocalypticism is not supported by the IPCC, and that the green movement is dominated by anti-human philosophy.
Gives some technical detail on viability of low carbon non-solutions.
Andrew counters that Ward's apocalypticism is not supported by the IPCC, and that the green movement is dominated by anti-human philosophy.
Gives some technical detail on viability of low carbon non-solutions.
Bob frames Andrew's argument as a "denial of risks".
Demands Andrew admits that prices have gone up because of our dependence on gas.
Demands Andrew admits that prices have gone up because of our dependence on gas.
Bob losing it quite badly.
Andrew trying to quote Bob's boss, billionaire neomalthusian Jeremy Grantham.
Bob denies that Grantham is his boss.
Bob denies that Grantham is his boss.
Andrew keeping extremely cool.
Bob LIVID! Expect an angry rant from him on his @LSEnews blog.
End of discussion.
Bob LIVID! Expect an angry rant from him on his @LSEnews blog.
End of discussion.
@LSEnews Conclusion:
Greens, whether politicians, hackademics, activists, or wonks, do not come from a culture of debate and democracy.
Billionaire lackeys are not used to hearing the word 'no'.
And they both show.
Greens, whether politicians, hackademics, activists, or wonks, do not come from a culture of debate and democracy.
Billionaire lackeys are not used to hearing the word 'no'.
And they both show.
@LSEnews Bob has a long history of screeching at political enemies -- smear-mongering, fearmongering, censorship on behalf of Nick Stern and Jeremy Grantham...
But the bottom line can no longer support his histrionics.
Audience are with Andrew.
But the bottom line can no longer support his histrionics.
Audience are with Andrew.
@LSEnews Thanks to @iancollinsuk for being another broadcaster who *is* willing to have debate.
@LSEnews @iancollinsuk Footnote... Bob thinks he won the argument and the audience's affections.
https://twitter.com/ret_ward/status/1489594244536938504
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