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Feb 10, 2022 36 tweets 15 min read Read on X
Good morning! Shall we discuss something a bit more structural, although this is a cyclical theme in 2022 across Asia, from China to India and Southeast Asia. Let's talk about #infrastructure , which is the theme of the hour & the next decade🛣️🌉🚆📶⚡️

@natixis @NatixisResearch
Today, infrastructure stocks are soaring in China as hope of government policy leaning towards this sector to shore up domestic demand in sagging growth momentum.

In India, infrastructure has been a big theme & even more so after the expanded budget that prioritizes it ⏫📈.
Why is infrastructure the theme of the hour and the next 2 decades? Simply put: infrastructure is essential for the improvement of the quality of life, production of goods, services and to raise productivity of labor.

Demand for infrastructure is high & will sky rocket.
We published a research note on the rise of demand and supply of infrastructure in Asia and estimated the gap. Let's look at demand. Chart 1 below shows you the rise of population on the x-axis & the increase of urbanization in the y-axis based on UN estimates.

What do u see?
You should see that there will be more urbanized people in the next two decades.

Population: India will add 213m people, Pakistan 81m and Indonesia 45 million people.

In Youthful Asian economies (the ones below ex China) there'll be +462 m urbanites n top of 895 now.

So what?
While Asia, esp India, Pakistan, Indonesia, the Philippines, Bangladesh, Vietnam, China & Malaysia may have a lot of people & even more urban people in the future, the stock of infrastructure remains inadequate to meet the needs of its people currently & worse in the future.
Let's look at roads 🛣️. Did you know that India has more road per capita than China? 🇮🇳🇨🇳 . I think population is a better metric.

Roads are key for accessibility & trade & transport. Everyone has invested in road building except the Philippines & Pakistan.

Let me explain.
We take total road length & divide that by the population at that particular time to see whether road length/hm has improved.

Contrary to perception, India has invested a lot in road building. Most growth is Malaysia, Vietnam, India, China & Indonesia.

But not the Philippines.
The Philippines results aren't shocking as we know infrastructure is poor but it is rather striking in that it hasn't invested much relative to the growth of the population so both the stock & change is WORST (yes, worse than Pakistan).Absolutely & relatively worst at road infra.
That makes me sad because I like that country & its people & so its people have WORSE road than in 2005 as we have more people but not enough investment so stock of road per capital FELL. Let's talk about quality of roads. India is ahead of China in QUANTITY due to investment but
Quantity of roads doesn't account for quality of roads & in trade & transport, expressway matters because it boosts productivity by lubricating mobility.

Expressway/capita: China has invested the most (easier due to centralized gov vs India fragmented) & India worst but better!
Here you can see that everyone has built more expressway per capita in the past 15 years, which is good but there is still a lot of room for improvement, especially for India, the Philippines and Pakistan. Again, Pakistan expressway road infra is better than the Philippines.
Vietnam has invested the most in Southeast Asia on expressway building, & so its stock of expressway per capita has increased sharply and now third amongst these countries, only below China and Malaysia. Has helped its manufacturing & trade competitiveness as exports >100% of GDP
Bottom line about Youthful Asian economies + China roads:
*A lot of investment in road building in the past 15 years, EXCEPT THE PHILIPPINES & Pakistan
*Regarding expressways, China invested most & best stock, almost as good as developed
*Vietnam improved
*India needs more
Actually, they all need to invest more, even China to get to DM benchmark, although close. But most needed are India, the Philippines, Pakistan, Indonesia and Vietnam.

Expressways are key to transport links & trade & productivity.

What about rail?
Let's look at rail line length, we deflate it by population to make it more comparable regarding infrastructure stock.

Sadly, only China, Malaysia & Indonesia have invested in rail infrastructure in the past 15 years on an absolute basis.

Relative to population, only CH & MA👇
How should u read this chart? Orange dots = growth rates; bars are stock deflated by population.

Rail length is where China shines and the rest of Youthful Asia sags. Sad to see Vietnam stock WORSE relative to its rising population as no investment is made so things are worse.
But of course the Philippines & Indonesia are worst despite higher investment by Indonesia as stock level is worse. That said, Indonesia is getting up there & will surpass Vietnam if it continues w/ its rail line push. The Philippines once more WORST in infrastructure stock.
Rail is clearly a sad point for South Asia and Southeast Asia except for Malaysia (Thailand is not included because it is an aging country and we only measured Youthful Asia economies, including China as a benchmark). While China stock is best & increased, still not as good as DM
The Philippines is WORST for road & rail due to lack of investment. Asia as invested in expressways but not so much rail. More needed!

What about air infrastructure? Let's take a look at air passenger/capita. Explosive growth everywhere except Pakistan. The Philippines invested!
Air is key for for trade and transport & especially key for places like the Philippines and Indonesia where u can only enter via air or water. So if it wants to promote tourism, it needs to invest in air infrastructure to get people in & out. Malaysia BEST! Look at Vietnam growth
Vietnam has the best growth & second best in air passenger/capita & China third. Note that we're not talking about quality of air infrastructure at all & just people up in the air.

This gives you a sense that air infra has ways to go except Malaysia. We need more investment!
What about electricity? Here, I don't go into details about generation but if u look at distribution, India has the highest electricity transmission loss! Close to 20%!

Across Asia, the transmission loss has declined a lot to close to the 5% benchmark of DM but not India.
What about digital infrastructure like fast internet? Here we look at fixed broadband subscription per capita & China is best. Vietnam is second and Malaysia third.

Worst are Pakistan & India. This is interesting b/c @elonmusk is trying to sell Starlink to India but hits a wall!
Finally, let's put this all together - mostly use transport infrastructure as we think it is key to economic development & life. We created a @natixis @NatixisResearch Asian Infrastructure Metric putting all these factors together to assess the relative supply of infrastructure.
How do u read this index? First, u know the subcomponents b/c I just explained to u & who's best/worst etc. These subcomponents all have equal weights to keep it simple. And then u normalize the data & sum to get composite.

Best? Malaysia! 🇲🇾 Driven by road, railroad & air
Meaning, he countries here & why investors put money in higher skilled manufacturing such as semiconductor as the infrastructure for trade is better.

Second is China, driven by broadband, electricity, rail & road.

Third is Vietnam.
Vietnam is decent everything except railway (relative to these emerging markets but still way off the mark for DM).

Note that Malaysia, China and Vietnam are the biggest exporters in all the countries included here & good infrastructure is key to be competitive!
Indonesia needs a lot more investment and also India. But the countries that need the most is the Philippines and Pakistan as the stock of infrastructure is WORST.

And they all need more if we compare to our developed markets benchmark.
But that is now. What about the future? We know that supply is INADEQUATE to meet demand of the population now, esp the Philippines and Pakistan. MORE people will be added to woefully inadequate infrastructure!

@natixis Infrastructure Gap = existing supply + future demand 👇
Allow me to explain our @natixis Infrastructure Supply Gap: We take the increase of urban population into 2040 & then taking the existing supply to calculate the gap. Voila, India has the LARGEST gap due to its sizeable increase, followed by Pakistan & Bangladesh. Malaysia least.
In Southeast Asia, the Philippines and Indonesia will have a sizeable gap and also will need to increase investment as its demographic transition will add more pressure on infrastructure.

Note that all the countries below will have a GAP of infra - it's the question how BIG.
Since u guys like pictures, let me give you a summary infographic of @natixis infrastructure gap (note that this accounts for existing supply + future demand using urbanization growth).

For every transport infrastructure, the gap is BIGGEST for India so its overall gap is WIDEST
But it isn't the only one - Pakistan is desperately needing more. In Southeast Asia, both Indonesia and the Philippines have rather large gaps for road infrastructure. Indonesia has a rather large gap of air and fixed broadband. In short: DEMAND GAP WIDE NOW & worse in the future
We want to end on a rather positive note, because all weaknesses are opportunities (India & the Philippines infra). Strengths are also opportunities, as Malaysia is more competitive. The good news is that governments understand this, and it's not just China infra stock rallying..
Key infrastructure projects/plans in Asia, including India's Gati Shakti that includes large spending for roads and railways in the FY2023 budget released. Vietnam is planning to beef up its road infrastructure with modernizing highways and expressways!
Sincerely,
@Trinhnomics

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"The new approach is rooted in a core belief in Beijing: that Trump is fundamentally transactional, not ideological. Policymakers believe they can use Trump’s zest for a deal to neutralize the China hawks in his administration."

But Trump is a trade hawk. He has had the same view since the 1980s no matter what the "experts" have said. He is ideological in this point of view. He sees manufacturing as key to economic strength, the same as Xi actually.
Interesting to look at Xi and Trump meeting to compare Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt meeting at Yalta. Stalin had UK spies telling him all about the "red lines" for the UK and the US. So he came to the meeting totally prepared. Stalin was willing to give the US the "red lines" but in return, he took everything else, including territories in Japan, a foothold into Asia via China, and finally Eastern Europe, including Poland, where Churchill was busy drinking and talking too much to achieve much. This paved ways for Mao and the Communists to emerge in China. And the rest is history.

So does Trump have "red lines" that Xi know? If so, to get that, what would Xi ask in return? Interesting to see this playing out. Irrespective, we are entering strategic decoupling at great speed deal or no deal.
Another interesting fact to compare Franklin vs Stalin meeting was to look at Xi vs Trump's background. Trump came from wealth and has pretty had a pretty cushy life vs Xi whose father was part of the founding members of the communist party but was purged from the CCP and sent to work in factory. Xi essentially suffered as a child and teenager and grew up in China's tough decades.

Meanwhile, Trump grew up when the US dominated the world & still does but going through a tough transition. And so they both see the past and future in a different lenses.

Still, I think to think that Trump is only transactional and not ideological is not entirely true. He fundamentally believe in manufacturing and strategic autonomy and sees the US globalist agenda as a threat to national security, especially dependency on China for US defense supply chain. Lighthizer in the latest FT lunch interview also commented the same.
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Good question. Let me just answer this with below tables.

First, whatever China lost in market share in exports to the US, Vietnam has gained. The best example is in mobile phones.

Now, is it REROUTING? As in just Chinese phones that are then trans-shipped to the US? Image
First, we have to realize that Vietnam went through two stages of FDI.

The first stage is driven by NORTH ASIANS that are basically fed up with geopolitical tensions and too much competition from China (think Japan in 2010 w/ rare earth and South Korea with THAAD but even before) and so what do they do?

They MOVE their production base slowly out of China into where? Well, for South Korea, it was Vietnam.

Samsung Electronics moved into Vietnam in the early 2000s to the point now more than 50% of their stuff is exported out of Vietnam. But not only. Many other Korean stuff.

Also Japanese etc. So what you see in the telecom here is not CHINESE PHONES but KOREAN PHONES.

The second wave of course is Chinese outward FDI themselves and also increasingly EUROPEANS.

Anyway, let's talk about phones.Image
For phones, the key thing I want to show here is that while Vietnam exports have grown a lot, over time, the IMPORTS of that have DECLINED.

And they have declined everywhere. People that look at China all day long think Vietnam only trades with China.

No, Vietnam is a relatively big trader for its small economic size so it TRADES WITH MANY ECONOMIES, the US and also South Korea etc.

Long story short here is that Vietnam is importing less of inputs while exporting more and that tells you that overtime supply chains are DEEPENING THERE FOR THAT ITEM. And it's not transhipment.

But what's RISING in imports FROM EVERYONE? WELL, capital intensive stuff. Vietnam is importing a lot of machinery etc from EVERYWHERE.

Note that it imports a lot from South Korea and Japan, Taiwan etc as well as China.Image
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Did you know that Vietnam's Q3 GDP grew 8.2%YoY and Q2 was 8%? It is one of the few countries in Asia where manufacturing share of GDP is rising even as Chinese imports flood the market. Why?

“In contrast to other countries that are stuck in political paralysis, Vietnam has moved very swiftly to secure lower tariffs and reform its economy to increase productivity and competitiveness,” @Trinhnomics , a senior economist at Natixis SA, said. “This has allowed Vietnam to emerge as a winner under Trump 2.0 despite high tariffs because it’s favored as a foreign direct investment destination for those wanting to diversify away from worsening US-China tensions.”

bloomberg.com/news/articles/…
Look at manufacturing across Asia and what do you see? Its down for India, Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia.

But not Vietnam. It's up. The fact of the matter is Vietnam faces a widening trade deficit with China but at the same time it has turned that into an overall trade surplus, which means that Vietnam value add has risen over time.

And you can see it clearly in its manufacturing share of GDP or global market share. Has been slowly steady climb.Image
This year, in 2025 manufacturing output surged 9.92% in the first nine months of 2025 from a year earlier, with around 77% of companies surveyed by the National Statistics Office saying export orders were higher or at the same level, a sign that US buyers are shrugging off the tariff hit for now.

What is Vietnam doing right? Well, first, the most important thing is that it wants manufacturing above all else. Vietnamese people need formal jobs and by prioritizing that, Vietnam is now focusing on the next leg of development, which is how to ADD MORE VALUE.

Blink and you will miss the biggest reform story of Asia. Vietnam literally redrew its map & made one of the biggest structural reforms in decades.
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That's how China has captured the market. It's willing to do polluting working and basically sells more not a lot. But having cornered that market, it also sees it as leverage, which it has used since 2010 (with Japan). The weaponization of supply chain is what we call it.

The free market economics of it makes sense for people to just leave it to China to do rare earth & then focus on the more market profitable business. Until, well, dun, dun dun.
So how should a firm or government view rare earth? Should you go and pay HIGHER price than what the Chinese rare earths are going for to then secure resilience of supply chain?

Most say, well, "Nah." That is a costly move because well, others will outcompete you with cheaper Chinese inputs while you go dig and refine your rare-earth magnets. Not an economically worthwhile endeavor.

But not everyone has taken that decision. Here is a story of a company that didn't: General Motors.
Here I summarize the great reporting of the WSJ Jon Emont and Christopher Otts.

As you know, we have known this issue for a long time & Japan knew about it since 2010. So the Japanese usually have about 1 year of this stockpile, just in case. Not the Americans.

The car industry is pretty dependent on rare-earth magnets. GM decided that Covid shocks, which left it with semiconductor shortage, that it should secure non-Chinese rare earth magnets.

This sort of decision takes years to bear fruit so it is one with risks. Why? Well, your competitors can buy cheaper Chinese rare earth while you are trying to get more expensive non-Chinese.

wsj.com/business/autos…
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Here we go, as I'll go on TV soon with @JoumannaTV to discuss data, let's take a look at China September trade data that just came out.

September exports rose 8.3%YoY in USD and imports increased 7.4%YoY.

Year-to-date, exports grew 6.1% while imports declined -1.1%YoY.
By destination, China exports to the US fell -16.9% but to Asia rising rapidly.

Exports to India rose 12.9% and India deficit with China is accelerating, with imports not just intermediates for production but also final consumer goods.

Shipment to ASEAN rose 14.7% with fastest growth to Thailand and Vietnam (+22.5% and 22.3%, respectively). The sharp increase of shipment reflect supply chain diversification but also rising imports for domestic demand in ASEAN that also poses challenges to domestic industries.

Exports to the EU rose 8.2% with shipment to Germany increasing +10.5%.

Interestingly, China exports to Russia has fallen this year by -11.3% as Russia puts up curbs to some Chinese exports.
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#2 USA 22.8bn
#3 ASEAN 17.2bn
#4 India 10.3bn
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Should the US drop quarterly earnings? Well, the UK doesn't require it and neither does the EU.

Is it a controversial idea? Many people think it's a good idea to ditch it, including BlacRock CEO Larry Fink.

Fact: Hillary Clinton is also not a fan of quarterly earnings requirement.

It's one of the reforms people think will reduce shorterm-ism that is rather bipartisan.
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Here is Hilary Clinton going off against quarterly earnings.

Interesting that they got only quotes in that article of people thinking it is a terrible idea to get rid of it.

A lot of people think getting rid of it is a good idea.

Btw, companies can still report quarterly earnings. The SEC is saying you don't have to if you don't want to in proposing it.

European companies report quarterly earnings. Some don't. It's the optionality that's key.

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You can watch Hillary's actual speech. She's against quarterly earnings.

Many people are. Quarterlyism capitalism.

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