Thread by @SVPhillimore

Radio 4 - Nancy Kelley - being asked about the dangers of allowing men to self ID into female prison. There is a balance here? NK - it’s saying a set of vulnerable people shouldn’t be allowed to go about their lives -

But we are not talking about them! We are talking about men who abuse system!

NK - men do abuse women and don’t pretend to be a woman to abuse them. Not aware of this happening

But this has happened! Right that victim here should not be forced to regard assailant as woman

Conversion therapy concern might also outlaw advice to teenagers considering transition - is that criminal?

NK - ban practices designed to suppress or change sexual orientation or gender ID. Exploring should remain legal

And that’s all @EHRC wants!

NK - gov agrees but EHRC is saying not enough evidence to ban it entirely this leaving trans people at risk

It’s really that you don’t like new set up of EHRC?

NK - we are all coming together in sadness and fear and this needs to be taken seriously.

Good to see that reasonable questions are finally being allowed. Hopefully it is clear that simply announcing your ‘sadness and anger’ without more, is no longer a credible argument.

And you can’t just pretend something isn’t happening and that will make it go away. The problem here is men. Stonewall and all the others will have to recognise that allowing any man to identify as a woman and demand compliance in any circumstance, brings with it problems.