Ok well @Helen_Whately and @RishiSunak I read and replied to the proposal. You have clearly stated they won’t be 27 tax levels in reply to the article but the Proposal clearly stated there would be 27 levels. So who’s lying? The proposal or the spokesperson?
As ever the government can’t be honest with business or industry and when they get caught out they gaslight. I am so very bored with the constant lying from this government. In this instance something that actually works well is being replaced with something that won’t!
Moreover the fact the Aussie wine would become more expensive despite the FTA and German wine becomes cheaper isn’t going to please the Brexiteers that support you. Seriously not thought through and should have never found it’s way to paper!
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I have been interviewed on national Radio a few times this week and the same question came up each time. Has the governments pledge to make importation easier materialised. The simple answer is no, it considerably more difficult. Here is the difference for the record.
Pre-Brexit (for wine imports) you required and Vat/EORI number and access to U.K. EMCS. That was it if you did it all in house and both were/are free to use.
Post Brexit requirements ,VAT/EORI number, U.K. EMCS, RORO licence, CHIEF/CDS access, haulier with GVMS access, & if you want to control your declarations both import and export fully, GBWK number, GBRC numbers. Your also need a full time employee trained to use all of this.
I have now had time to read why my stock was stopped on Monday evening and understand why. The new Government systems that came into force on the 1st Jan 2022 are straight out of George Orwell 1984, which Is ironic really because the same age as the U.K. Chief importing system.
Basically the government has linked three computer systems so that they don’t have to fiscally stop lorry drivers unless of course the system hasn’t worked. Now whilst the idea is actually clever as ever with this government nobody thinks about the practical use of the system.
So here how it works, CHIEF receives your pre advice importer info for what ever you have ordered in my case wine obviously. We now add the new coding (RRS01) in Box 44 (code box)header level. This then tell the CHIEF system to make the declaration available on the GVMS System.
I have been importing wine for years and after Brexit happened we continued with our imports despite the pain and endless documentation. Today for the first time my consignment was stopped by customs due to missing paperwork. I was somewhat surprised. 1/2
We do our documents in advance to avoid border issues. On checking all our documents had been created correctly. However HMRC changed the rules again & now you need code RRS01 in box 44. Zero notification from HMRC! We just avoided a £600 fine for delaying the lorry. 🤬#Brexit
Overnight I have seen yet another change with this consignment. The stock arrived in Dover at 23.47. I know this because even though the stock is bonded and we don’t get to check it until tomorrow, HMRC has cleared it down as arrived in full. What if stock is wrong/missing ? 🤬
Just so that @trussliz and @RishiSunak understand correctly. The UK wine trade works on a global basis & has a much better understanding of trading across borders than any government ministers like @Helen_Whately will ever have.
Just ask @VictoriaPrentis what happen when her department didn’t think it through with the Vi1 saga. She was made to u-turn. Now we have the same situation with the Excise Reform Proposal. This is a badly thought through piece of proposed law that should of never been published
Now @trussliz has been caught out in Australia because wine importers across the UK have been explaining the implications to there producers. Surprise surprise the producers have gone directly to the Australian government to voice just how pissed off they are at being conned.
I have actually taken the time to make a spreadsheet with the proposal for the excise reform proposal. My spreadsheet shows me that an average bottle based on 13.5% would cost the consumer £0.69 per bottle more based on all other costs remaining the same.
If that bottle has just 1% more ABV at 14.5% then the price increase per bottle is £1.03. Again with no other fix costs changing. Moreover the reduction on Fizz has almost no effect on the retail prices. There would be no benefit to the consumer.
So once again in the cold light of day this wonderful proposal from @RishiSunak is based on nothing but hot air. Higher prices for consumers, no gain on tax revenues, but an unworkable regime for the actual importers.
Hey @RishiSunak can you explain to the world how moving from 4 levels (bands) of wine taxation to 26 levels (your proposal) is simplifying the excise system. Would really like to know. Maybe I am missing something because seems more complicated. So don’t be shy guy, let us know.
Hey me again @RishiSunak. Looking like 112,000 people would like you to answer this question or do I have to get @CPJElmore to do it in Parliament. Be a good egg and answer the question.
When is duck not a duck? Below is the proposal from government for #wine excise reform. Read very carefully bullet point 3. Its very cleverly written and designed to confuse.