Moloch is about ratchets. One person does something fucked up to win and all future winners do it too.
Moloch is simply the dark god of zero sum games, in particular iterated zero sum games.
The system as-envisaged lacks the "metaprogramming" ability to change its own rules: to ban cutting off your hand to win a race by throwing it over the finish line!
So how does a system lose its ability to change the rules of the game to stop all game participants cutting off one hand to even have a chance of winning the game?
How do we lose the *ability* to change the rules to keep Moloch out of the game?
Answer? We lose GOVERNANCE.
Now this question is not a complex question: how do systems lose the ability to govern themselves?
It's all gone to shit? Pick somebody to sort it out. Support them. Keep an eye on them.
People have always done this in times of crisis. People *evolved* to do this. Tribalism.
There's no apparent reason that a nation in crisis, or a world in crisis, can't do this.
Churchill in WW2 is a good example: for all his flaws, better that man than an empty chair or a worse man.
So why aren't we simply appointing leaders to sort it out for us? Why no heroes?
We've put *enormous* amounts of time into dismantling the idea of human-as-hero, particularly human-male as hero. Everybody's gotta be corrupt. Anti-heroes everywhere.
Nixon really did a number on people. And they shot Kennedy. (Who did?)
And Gandhi. And MLK. And JFK. WAIIIITTT
So there's your answer.
The human system continues to generate heroes: flawed human beings who are elevated to a level of faith that we would permit them to change the rules of the system to defeat Moloch once more.
And then the intelligence agencies assassinate them.
Moloch as a great festering civilisation-containing beast is simply the product of Gandhi, MLK, JFK, RFK, Malcolm X, Patrice Lumumba and how many others, being murdered. Mandela, and all the rest, jailed.
Here, I consider Julian Assange. A flawed hero for sure, but in a cage.
The human mechanism for projecting The Will of The People on to a single individual to Fix The Goddamn Problem has been interrupted because unaccountable intelligence assets in the labyrinthine hells of the military-industrial complex KEEP MOLOCH IN POWER BY KILLING THE WIZARDS.
Somebody comes along to banish some particularly awful piece of Moloch intrusion into the real world, and the CIA whacks them.
Think of doping in the Olympics. Athletes lives will be *much* worse (shorter) if they're allowed to take performance improving drugs. Moloch: halted.
Human beings would not have survived for millions of years in this environment if we did not have sensible levels of Moloch-resistance.
But after the invention of the nuke, the intelligence agencies run wild. The nuke belongs in the domain of infinite shadow. The spooks swarm.
Of course there's plenty of Moloch in Europe for the past thousand years. The Spanish Inquisition and all that.
And there's quite a bit of killing to protect it. The People keep throwing up heroes to liberate them (Ned Ludd!) and there is indeed a war. But rights and unions win.
But the original framing of Moloch envisages humans as trapped by game theory, unable to escape.
This is of course not true. We have built-in defences against lock-in: every generation of teenagers tries to break the game and escape.
If the game is weak? It does not serve? Gone
The Moloch model simply assumes that human beings are powerlessly trapped inside of systems, and that each new system is a cage.
In fact, human beings elect (not always by voting) heroes to get them out of the system they are stuck in, into another system. Moloch is beaten back.
And that cycle of Moloch taking power, then humans picking a hero to slay Moloch, then Moloch regenerating and returning?
It's as old as The Ouroboros. Moloch comes, and Moloch goes. It does not matter that the heroes are corrupt: other heroes watch them. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros
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@doctorow@VladZamfir@mattereum@avalancheavax My take is that democracy died when the nuclear bomb was invented: everything after that is fundamentally the National Security Apparatus wearing the skin of democracy like the bugs from Men in Black.
There are only 15 nuke-countries. Everything else is basically a vassal state.
@doctorow@VladZamfir@mattereum@avalancheavax This is not to say that there are not better and worse illusions of democracy: I think there's a *very* good chance that the UK would have thrived under Corbyn, and the US under Bernie. But they had strong positions on matters that impacted the defense world, and did not succeed.
@doctorow@VladZamfir@mattereum@avalancheavax This may seem bleak, but I'm watching this from the perspective of an Indian. I'm not in India, my father's family mostly escaped through academia.
50C most summers in India now, in cities without running water. It comes in trucks, in plastic jugs.
Their standard of living is directly dependent on somebody else running autocracy.
@doctorow@VladZamfir@mattereum@avalancheavax What I do not want to see emerge from the next round of progressive push is post-oligarchical societies in rich developed democracies which are 100% depended on huge enslaved populations running the factories which sustain that quality of life.
I want to talk a little about time scales. Here's what I want to know: in what year do you believe the last human will die of hunger?
How long before we can eradicate starvation?
Now, as is traditional, a brief thread. Why does the timescale matter?
Here's why: you are not going to see the Promised Land. It's not coming. What's coming is centuries of *history* IF WE ARE LUCKY.
History is filled with gross, gory things.
You see all those combat robots?
They're gonna get used. In fact they're already getting used: drone war is robot war. And you can bet there are classified ground combat robots already. There must be; the tech just needs money, and DARPA ain't poor.
The first thing is that people are having three different emotions about NFTs: a sense of betrayal, of fear, and of envy.
These three emotions are then channeled through the particularly disgusting positioning tactics which modern internet discourse has sunk to. It's awful stuff
But there are legitimate reasons for people to feel betrayed, afraid and envious. These folks aren't having these emotional reactions *for no reason*. There are legitimate problems, reasons for the complaints.
The problem is they're confusing freedom fighters for prison guards.
The younger generation *suck* at explaining the blockchain. No wonder there's so much FUD in the space right now - I'm looking at you @smdiehl
Let me explain what's going on, but this time we're going to leave the really important parts of the picture *in* the frame. A thread:
You've got to start in 2008 with the global financial collapse. Since then, interest rates have hovered around zero as government pumped cash into the global economy to keep it running.
For a long time, no inflation. The extreme medicine was working. Then covid, and 5% inflation
During that period with no inflation, and tons of money printing, there was very little economic *growth*. If there had been, inflation would have started then - the economy picks right up, credit risk goes down because lending is less risky, and prices start to rise on the cash.
What does it actually take to keep people happy? How can we do it at minimum ecological cost? What would those lives be like, and would we be happy living them if they were our lives?