Briefly, an antiviral started avg 5.1 days after symptom onset, with a primary endpoint that is triggered 3.1 days after start of treatment, when treatment is for 5 days, will be almost impossible to show benefit.
The avg patient didn't even have time to complete the treatment.
In the case of Paxlovid, the average patient in this trial would not even have been eligible to receive Paxlovid, since they would have been deemed "too late". fda.gov/media/155050/d…
In the case of Molnupiravir, the exact same thing is true. The average patient in this trial would not be eligible to even receive it at all. theatlantic.com/health/archive…
Interestingly, the authors call the endpoint "severe disease" and cite the following WHO paper: thelancet.com/journals/lanin…
The paper, however, classifies "Severe Disease" as stage 5 and below, whereas the WHO defines "Severe Disease" as stages 6 and below. Why play with definitions this way?
Also the primary endpoint is worded is such that clinical judgement comes into play:
"patients requiring supplemental oxygen to maintain pulse oximetry oxygen saturation of 95% or higher"
They could have used "patients who measured oximetry oxygen saturation of 95%" but didn't.
Putting it all together, the patients were enrolled way too late for an antiviral, and the primary endpoint was such that it triggered before the treatment was complete. There was also human judgement involved, which isn't a good thing, *especially in an open-label trial*.
When we look at the hard endpoints, such as requiring mechanical ventilation and death, what do we see?
Not only do these endpoints look incredibly positive for the Ιvermectin group, but they are also the strongest (p-value) findings of the paper.
As for my position on Ιvermectin, it's been consistent since the summer. We don't know if it works or not because *appropriately sized studies with correct dosing and timing* aren't being done. But it's safe enough that it's not worth not giving.
You can see a prior review of the evidence I did a couple of months back here, showing that there is a clear, if uncertain, signal of efficacy. doyourownresearch.substack.com/p/a-conflict-o…
The real scandal is that the proper authorities don't seem interested in drugs like this, or even fluvoxamine, which has even stronger data.
Run a trial with the same parameters as Paxlovid or Molnupiravir. It can't be impossible, it's been already done for those medicines.
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True. It only prevented death (3 vs 10) and ICU admission (4 vs 10). But who cares about that if it doesn't prevent... (*checks notes*) drop in O2 levels below 95%?
Did anyone claim it did that?
Read the results of the study yourselves and then the conclusions... 🙄
Some required reading for all those playing with words like "statistically significant" without any understanding that those words have a specific technical meaning that is not the same thing as what we mean by "significant" in everyday life.
The trial had decent dosing and recommended taking the medicine with a meal, which is good practice. On the minus side, people were enrolled 5.1 days after symptoms. Which means the average patient would've been excluded from the Paxlovid & Molnupiravir trials for being too late.
How much spike protein is produced in the body as a result of mRNA vaccination and how does it differ from ancestral SARS-CoV-2 spike? This will be one of the most important questions to answer moving forward. It will tell us a lot about the side-effects, among other things. 1/
I have a question for the stats-savvy people among us.
It will take a little bit of setup first, though. 🧵
In the paper "The Rise and Fall of Hydroxychloroquine for the Treatment and Prevention of COVID-19"
TOGETHER trial authors report it was stopped "for futility" because of this result: (risk ratio: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.45–2.21)
Remember us insisting we knew all there was to know & any insinuation to the contrary was a malicious lie?
Well, in the immortal words of Vox:
"Emerging data suggests menstruating people are actually experiencing what they say they are experiencing" vox.com/22935125/covid…
In other words, grudgingly accept that Malone was right 9 months ago, but not without talking down to the very same people who were right in every damn sentence.
Remember, kids: Vox is safe, effective, mild, and transient.
Security! Please remove this man from the premises.
I've not made noise about this data so far because my intent is not to highlight one country and turn it into a global conclusion. But when data is being manipulated in such obvious ways, we must assume that what we are allowed to see is basically public relations as this point.
It still blows my mind how much the good folks at FLCCC have gotten correct, and how much earlier than most, and how much shit they've gotten for their trouble.
Even if we ignore ivm & hcq, even if we assume they do nothing.
They were first and ahead of their time in recommending corticosteroids. How many did they save until their insight became accepted?
They were recommending fluvoxamine almost a year ago. How many did that save?
The painful truth that most just can't come to terms with, is that with what is commonly accepted science today, the MATH+ protocol by @Covid19Critical@PierreKory & Co would have been your best bet at any time in the past few years if you got covid. Maybe there's a case to be